Twitter explains why Trump can use site as venue for violence, hate

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*Calls four paragraphs too long to read, regurgitates the same "independent thinker" buzzwords as every other troll, and accuses everyone else of being part of a hive mind.*

Oh, buttercup.


Guffaw! There's always one with this form of address. I always wonder at the person behind it. That kind of slimy arrogance.
 
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*Calls four paragraphs too long to read, regurgitates the same "independent thinker" buzzwords as every other troll, and accuses everyone else of being part of a hive mind.*

Oh, buttercup.


Guffaw! There's always one with this form of address. I always wonder at the person behind it. That kind of slimy arrogance.

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Now I could go on at length about how the arguments you're making are morally and intellectually bankrupt, but frankly that would be beating a dead horse because a few others are making those points already. I'll happily admit that they're doing a better job of it than I would anyway.
Actually, you did a pretty good job with the rest of your comment.


(Stream-of-consciousness posting can lead to some odd compositional construction. I have often started out to make one point and elaborated far more than intended by the time I wrapped things up.)
 
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You lot are far too easy to tease, and none of you are amusing to make it worthwhile.

Anyway, time to get on with other things. It was fun, but talking to the over-earnest and witless gets boring. Not one decent insult at me between you. I despair at our youth.

What a misspent education you've all had.
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Not one decent insult at me between you.
Your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.

Now bugger off.

If they were to make a movie about its mother, it would be about a pregnant woman overcoming all odds and naysayers to go on to win a thermometer eating contest.

This person only exists to give the poor souls with fetal alcohol syndrome somebody to laugh at.

Not a completely bad person, though. Awfully generous of it to allow heroin users to use its cranial cavity to dispose of their used needles.

Edit: Misspelled "Heroin."
 
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Now I could go on at length about how the arguments you're making are morally and intellectually bankrupt, but frankly that would be beating a dead horse because a few others are making those points already. I'll happily admit that they're doing a better job of it than I would anyway.
Actually, you did a pretty good job with the rest of your comment.


(Stream-of-consciousness posting can lead to some odd compositional construction. I have often started out to make one point and elaborated far more than intended by the time I wrapped things up.)

Aw, thanks, dlux.

I can get carried away with a post too. Especially if I'm just trying to do something quick; it seems to take longer to whittle a long mess like my earlier post down into something more concise. It's like Pascal said:

I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time.
 
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Yeah it's this antiquated concept the far left is trying desperately to destroy called "free speech."

You should realize it's impossible to take you seriously if you aren't even going to acknowledge Pumpkin Spice Lex Luthor illegally trying to use his position as President to stifle the free speech of NFL players.
 
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Speaking of violence and hate, anyone taken a look at Antifa's Twitter feed lately? It's chock full of it, and yet none of you cares.

ARS, home of the hypocrites! I think that should be your new slogan.

Oh, I am so excited for you to provide a link to what you believe is the official Antifa Twitter account. Please? Pretty Please?

Wow, that took me a whole 12 seconds

https://twitter.com/officialantifa?lang=en
Can you explain to me why you thought that a political movement trying to attract people to its cause would openly boast, before and above all else, that they "advocate for an ideology that has killed 94,000,000+ people in the 20th century"? Did you even consider the possibility that this might be a sign that the account is fake?

https://gizmodo.com/the-right-is-fallin ... 1798287977
The Right Is Falling for Its Own Fake Antifa Accounts

Looks like we can add Scotty to this list. lol

Too damn funny.

Edit: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631
I would say "Holy shit!", but this isn't actually even a little surprising:
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Yes, @AntifaBoston is one of the accounts cited in the Gizmodo piece.
 
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Us oldies think of you as the Neo-Spoiled. But when you are old, it will all come back on you.
Since you keep making the argument that you are older and therefore wiser, how old are those you are replying to? You must roughly know if you are seriously making that claim. Or is referring them as younger just another unsubstantiated attempted put down?

It's pretty easy to tell. I go with A=mc², maturity-of-comment*conservative-view to the power of 2, following established trends.
Getting older is one factor that tends towards being more conservative. But so is a lower education level. Since you use the position on the political spectrum to judge age, it would be equally fair for me to use your posts to conclude that you never made it out of high school. :)
 
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... and trolls get ponies.

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Every time ponies show up in these threads I'm going to counter with Ajit Pai or Martin Shkreli - take your pick.

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I choose Pai.

He always looks like he's tea-bagging a bowl full of Icy Hot while trying to keep a straight face because he's FaceTiming with his grandma.
 
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... and trolls get ponies.

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Every time ponies show up in these threads I'm going to counter with Ajit Pai or Martin Shkreli - take your pick.
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"Until this moment, ...I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness....You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?"
 
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In other words, all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

Come on, Twitter. It's clearly a lie to say that the same rules apply to everybody, when those rules are specifically designed to allow some special anointed individuals the ability to ignore rules that apply to everybody else.

While it's good to admit the truth, and to say you're going to spell out the rules that make some people able to say things that others aren't allowed to, kindly don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.
 
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By way of elaboration, SJWs don't fight for social justice, they fight for conformity to their internal dogmas. They might believe what they're fighting for is justice, but only insomuch as Jehovah's Witnesses believe they're saving souls.

Actually Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe we save souls. That's Jesus.

Btw, I've lost count on how many people I've met that are former violent gang members, drunkards, spouse abusers, etc. You know, people we've helped improve in their lives. I guess that's not a worthwhile cause huh?
 
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By way of elaboration, SJWs don't fight for social justice, they fight for conformity to their internal dogmas. They might believe what they're fighting for is justice, but only insomuch as Jehovah's Witnesses believe they're saving souls.

Actually Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe we save souls. That's Jesus.

Btw, I've lost count on how many people I've met that are former violent gang members, drunkards, spouse abusers, etc. You know, people we've helped improve in their lives. I guess that's not a worthwhile cause huh?

I'm generally opposed to the idea of using perpetual fantasy as a valid cure for anything.
 
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By way of elaboration, SJWs don't fight for social justice, they fight for conformity to their internal dogmas. They might believe what they're fighting for is justice, but only insomuch as Jehovah's Witnesses believe they're saving souls.

Actually Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe we save souls. That's Jesus.

Btw, I've lost count on how many people I've met that are former violent gang members, drunkards, spouse abusers, etc. You know, people we've helped improve in their lives. I guess that's not a worthwhile cause huh?

I'm generally opposed to the idea of using perpetual fantasy as a valid cure for anything.
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By way of elaboration, SJWs don't fight for social justice, they fight for conformity to their internal dogmas. They might believe what they're fighting for is justice, but only insomuch as Jehovah's Witnesses believe they're saving souls.

Actually Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe we save souls. That's Jesus.

Btw, I've lost count on how many people I've met that are former violent gang members, drunkards, spouse abusers, etc. You know, people we've helped improve in their lives. I guess that's not a worthwhile cause huh?

I'm generally opposed to the idea of using perpetual fantasy as a valid cure for anything.

If only just believing in a fantasy could solve those problems. That's simply not the case. We do not ask for blind faith, ever. We show you need to use your "power of reason" and actually take a real look at what is in the Bible, not just cherry picking.

In any case, you are free to believe what you want to believe. In my view, believing that the world's governments will solve any of our problems with thousands of years of history proving otherwise, is the true fantasy.
 
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By way of elaboration, SJWs don't fight for social justice, they fight for conformity to their internal dogmas. They might believe what they're fighting for is justice, but only insomuch as Jehovah's Witnesses believe they're saving souls.

Actually Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe we save souls. That's Jesus.

Btw, I've lost count on how many people I've met that are former violent gang members, drunkards, spouse abusers, etc. You know, people we've helped improve in their lives. I guess that's not a worthwhile cause huh?

I'm generally opposed to the idea of using perpetual fantasy as a valid cure for anything.

If only just believing in a fantasy could solve those problems. That's simply not the case. We do not ask for blind faith, ever. We show you need to use your "power of reason" and actually take a real look at what is in the Bible, not just cherry picking.

In any case, you are free to believe what you want to believe. In my view, believing that the world's governments will solve any of our problems with thousands of years of history proving otherwise, is the true fantasy.

I have had many Jehovah's Witnesses in my home and continue to read "Watchtower" as they arrive at my door.

There can be no question but that it's yet another failed doomsday cult.

All Abrahamic faiths are death cults but most aren't so foolish as to insist that Satan's rule commenced with the start of World War I and therefore Christ's return is...




Overdue.



You are free to keep believing that only a few hundred humans are destined for places of honor when this world is transformed into paradise while the rest become their servants...

I think I'll pass.
 
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I have had many Jehovah's Witnesses in my home and continue to read "Watchtower" as they arrive at my door.

There can be no question but that it's yet another failed doomsday cult.

How are we a failure? We've been running on voluntary contributions for over 120 years, ask nothing for our publications, not one person is paid anything to do the work.

And right now we are helping everyone, regardless of religion, ppl affected by the recent natural disasters.

You can call us a doomsday cult, but we don't follow any man, and while the world frets over what happens next, we aren't because we've been warned.

All Abrahamic faiths are death cults but most aren't so foolish as to insist that Satan's rule commenced with the start of World War I and therefore Christ's return is...




Overdue.

Um, we don't believe that. Satan has been doing his thing since the first human pair took his side and rebelled.

No date was given for Christ's return - only a composite sign that's been fulfilled to the letter since 1914, and no other time.
One thing is for certain, esp now, this world isn't going to get any better.



You are free to keep believing that only a few hundred humans are destined for places of honor when this world is transformed into paradise while the rest become their servants...

Sorry, we don't believe that either. Since you've stated quite a bit of things i don't exactly know what you are referring to, but
the invitation for salvation is open to everyone. Yes, we say only 144k make it to heaven, yet those on Earth don't serve them - the opposite is the case, they serve us. Those that do go to heaven however are not in any way special - everyone in the first century were selected.

"I'll pass."

We all make that choice - whether to have fun now and live for today, or believe a "lie" and live with eternity in view.

Just like the whole thing with agw, what if we waste all that money making the world a better place, for nothing?
 
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I have had many Jehovah's Witnesses in my home and continue to read "Watchtower" as they arrive at my door.

There can be no question but that it's yet another failed doomsday cult.

How are we a failure? We've been running on voluntary contributions for over 120 years, ask nothing for our publications, not one person is paid anything to do the work.

And right now we are helping everyone, regardless of religion, ppl affected by the recent natural disasters.

You can call us a doomsday cult, but we don't follow any man, and while the world frets over what happens next, we aren't because we've been warned.

All Abrahamic faiths are death cults but most aren't so foolish as to insist that Satan's rule commenced with the start of World War I and therefore Christ's return is...




Overdue.

Um, we don't believe that. Satan has been doing his thing since the first human pair took his side and rebelled.

No date was given for Christ's return - only a composite sign that's been fulfilled to the letter since 1914, and no other time.
One thing is for certain, esp now, this world isn't going to get any better.



You are free to keep believing that only a few hundred humans are destined for places of honor when this world is transformed into paradise while the rest become their servants...

Sorry, we don't believe that either. Since you've stated quite a bit of things i don't exactly know what you are referring to, but
the invitation for salvation is open to everyone. Yes, we say only 144k make it to heaven, yet those on Earth don't serve them - the opposite is the case, they serve us. Those that do go to heaven however are not in any way special - everyone in the first century were selected.

"I'll pass."

We all make that choice - whether to have fun now and live for today, or believe a "lie" and live with eternity in view.

Just like the whole thing with agw, what if we waste all that money making the world a better place, for nothing?

Help whomever you wish.

Is it needful to make unsubstantiated claims about the nature of the universe at the same time?
 
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Hmm, 71 year old, rich white guy gets up at 3AM to do Twitter frenzy tweets.
He's still doing coke.

Naw. Tiny bladder, to match his tiny hands. I still maintain "covfefe" happened because he fell asleep taking a dump and absolutely no one was willing to go into the bathroom and try to pry his phone out of his little fingers when he had his pj bottoms around his ankles.

edit: I truly apologize to all those who read this and cannot purge the mental image of an unwiped President Covfefe, aka Saruman the Orange, passed out on a toilet while unconsciously clutching a questionably-secured communication device from which he has spewed utter nonsense to the Entire World, with key staff members clustered outside the restroom door daring each other to try and "help" him.
 
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Now, off you go and try thinking for yourself, there's a good child.
You know, if someone wanted to present themselves here as a truly insufferable prick, they would probably use words exactly like those.

And yet ironically the insufferable pricks are the politically correct robots and their offensiveness attitudes:

"That's offensive"

"It's inappropriate"

Offensive and inappropriate to whom? You. The insufferable presumption of it, as if you possess the whole truth. The stinking arrogance.

You know, it's an actual person telling you he or she thinks your behavior is shitty. There's no liberal agenda sitting behind that. It's just one person (or many, as the case may be) telling you what he or she thinks regarding your writing.

Why is that arrogant?



Did you bother reading the replies to my reasoned and reasonable posts?

Yes.

Sorry, I have to call you out for that one. It was a trick question. He hasn't made any reasoned and reasonable posts.
 
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Help whomever you wish.

Is it needful to make unsubstantiated claims about the nature of the universe at the same time?

Well, we can argue about whether or not it is unsubstantiated or not. But obviously in your eyes it's a catch 22 situation, scoffed at because well, obviously science cannot prove any of that true because, well, it's beyond science.

Of course, so is our situation and how we got here according to science, but here we are, huh?
 
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Onemoreline proselytizing...

As I say when I gently close the door when you knock at my door, "Good luck with all that. Have a nice day."

edit: please don't play with the formatting.

Hey, it's a task that many say you couldn't pay me to do it. But we do. It's no big deal to disagree with us, that's called choice. And unlike major religions here in the US, we do not force others via lobbying, campaigning, or any other means, to force our beliefs on others.

Heck, speaking of the current stuff btw Trump and the NFL on the flag salute, perhaps he should look up what the Supreme court said about that. We hold the record for having the Supreme court rule against us, then take up the same topic again within three years, to have it overturned. (Yeah, it's probably just Trump using it as a distraction, but whatever).

Enjoy the liberties that come with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minersvil ... v._Gobitis
 
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Onemoreline proselytizing...

As I say when I gently close the door when you knock at my door, "Good luck with all that. Have a nice day."

edit: please don't play with the formatting.

Hey, it's a task that many say you couldn't pay me to do it. But we do. It's no big deal to disagree with us, that's called choice. And unlike major religions here in the US, we do not force others via lobbying, campaigning, or any other means, to force our beliefs on others.

Heck, speaking of the current stuff btw Trump and the NFL on the flag salute, perhaps he should look up what the Supreme court said about that. We hold the record for having the Supreme court rule against us, then take up the same topic again within three years, to have it overturned. (Yeah, it's probably just Trump using it as a distraction, but whatever).

Enjoy the liberties that come with it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minersvil ... v._Gobitis

May I ask if you intend to share commentary here outside your mission to spread your beliefs?
 
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Help whomever you wish.

Is it needful to make unsubstantiated claims about the nature of the universe at the same time?

Well, we can argue about whether or not it is unsubstantiated or not. But obviously in your eyes it's a catch 22 situation, scoffed at because well, obviously science cannot prove any of that true because, well, it's beyond science.

Of course, so is our situation and how we got here according to science, but here we are, huh?

Do Jehovah's Witnesses insist that we know the Bible is accurate because it has made a bunch of accurate predictions?

Do Jehovah's Witnesses have a position on evolution? What about the age of the Universe?
 
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The comments on this article have been quite a rollercoaster ride. We went from bitter, off-topic political arguments, to straight up trolling, to pony posting, to JW proselytizing.

I mean, in the context of what came before it, I'll take the JW guy, but what happened to the idea of moderation around here? Even the janitors on (blue board) 4chan would have quietly started deleting the more inflammatory posts by now. Does ARS have less moderation that 4chan now?
 
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I know that Jehovah's Witnesses feel they have a duty to spread the Truth to anyone who will listen. I know that Thoughtful feels they have a duty to spread the Truth to anyone who will listen.

Can we not do it here? Please?

Sure. I'll stop challenging absurd claims in these forums as soon as committed and uncritical believers stop making them.

This is a science and technology site. I'm disappointed that you're willing to create an equivalency between my desire to challenge ridiculous claims with the desire of some to make ridiculous claims.

Why is there such a strong desire to leave the claims of the religious, specifically, alone? It appears perfectly reasonable to challenge every other claim in these forums whether political or AGW-related, or surrounding who's operating system is superior...Yet some people seem to consistently want to just ignore the claims of the religious or worse, the impacts of those claims.

Parents, in the U.S. are legally allowed to frighten the shit out of their children with horrible stories of eternal suffering, program them with utterly absurd descriptions of reality, and convince them that critical examination is a sure path to the nightmare of eternal burning they've previously described.

But let's not talk about any of that here.

I know my dedication to challenging religious claims isn't as appreciated here as my dedication to challenge other flavors of magical thinking.

I'm resigned to suffering loss of reputation or popularity with some (including Ars staff).
 
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The comments on this article have been quite a rollercoaster ride. We went from bitter, off-topic political arguments, to straight up trolling, to pony posting, to JW proselytizing.

I mean, in the context of what came before it, I'll take the JW guy, but what happened to the idea of moderation around here? Even the janitors on (blue board) 4chan would have quietly started deleting the more inflammatory posts by now. Does ARS have less moderation that 4chan now?
Moderators on this site take an extreme light-touch approach to the front page. They generally won't bother getting involved unless people are very directly and bluntly insulting each other on a personal level, and this far into a thread they often ignore even that. On top of that, the report function is pretty well-buried (you have to go to the Contact Us page) and reports are often dismissed, especially this far into threads, with things like "that's what the ignore function is for". In any case, trolling is technically against the rules but typically won't get moderated unless a troll has been especially blatant for months at a time or is a sockpuppet account.

So to answer your question, yes, the better-moderated sections of 4chan are far, far better moderated than the Ars Technica comments.
 
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