Starlink profit growing rapidly as it faces a moment of promise and peril
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Fuck Musk and Fuck SpaceX, the man is at this literal moment working to dismantle USAID and cause hardship starvation and death all over the planet. People will die because of this disgusting excuse for a man and his petty ego.
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Transporter2000
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Ontario just ripped up the $100 million contract with Starlink over the tariffs.
Anyone doing business with a Musk entity supports fascists, and I'm calling out even APPLE. Tim Cook, RUN away from including Starlink on iPhones
Anyone doing business with a Musk entity supports fascists, and I'm calling out even APPLE. Tim Cook, RUN away from including Starlink on iPhones
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If you willingly* support spacex, you support musk.
if you support musk, you support evil.
It's quite frankly that simple.
edited to add "willingly" because the choice between no internet at all or starlink isn't really a choice at all for the individual in the modern world. But being a cheerleader for spacex is beyond the pale at this point, IMO.
if you support musk, you support evil.
It's quite frankly that simple.
edited to add "willingly" because the choice between no internet at all or starlink isn't really a choice at all for the individual in the modern world. But being a cheerleader for spacex is beyond the pale at this point, IMO.
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Keith Tanner
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Welcome to a trade war. It's politically inadvisable for the Canadian government to do business with US corporations right now, especially those who are tied to Musk. Since Ford is a politician, he's doing the right thing in the eyes of his constituents.
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As someone who has consistently supported SpaceX, was excited about Starlink, and even got yelled at right here for suggesting we could give Elon the benefit of the doubt regarding his Nazi solutes, **** him and his businesses. He is illegally accessing government computer systems, illegally obstructing payments of government contracts, illegally attempting to shut down an entire federal agency, and is doing god only knowns what else.
He should be arrested and SpaceX should be seized in the interest of national security.
He should be arrested and SpaceX should be seized in the interest of national security.
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Now is the time for self sacrifice and to put the needs of humanity and our country above personal interests
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Sure, if you define "politics" as "desire to dismantle the US government, completely tank the economy and replace the dollar with Bitcoin," sure.
You think you're correct because your logic is sound. And your logic IS sound but it's based on a false premise: the notion that what Elon is doing is "just politics." It isn't. You're acting like it's a disagreement over simple matters of how to implement some economy policy. It isn't "just politics" but you are pretending that it is.
It's like if you had an office where one guy kept saying, "I'm gonna bring a gun one day and murder some of my coworkers." And then they do nothing about it, but when other employees are told to sit next to him, they say, "I don't want to sit next to him he might kill me!" And then HR goes, "oh grow up you shouldn't not sit next to a coworker because of political differences."
It is a completely appropriate analogy given that Musk literally said BEFORE the election that he planned to tank the economy if Trump won.
Do not make the mistake of confusing a logically sound argument with one that is actually true.
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I suspect Starlink will soon see a bunch of additional taxes in non-US countries (including Canada) over the tariffs. The big problem for Starlink now is that Starlink relies on ground stations in other countries, and pissing them off isn't going to make life any easier.
That's how Brazil got the concessions it did on Starlink regarding X - because Brazil could seize Starlink assets in Brazil, which include a ground station, which would disable Starlink completely over the area.
That's how Brazil got the concessions it did on Starlink regarding X - because Brazil could seize Starlink assets in Brazil, which include a ground station, which would disable Starlink completely over the area.
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Every decent human being on the planet should cancel their starlink subscription.
Here's to hoping for many many more launch failures!
Here's to hoping for many many more launch failures!
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And that's why "normal" countries don't put CEOs in government, because legislation and policy doesn't mix with founder mode. Even better, government and policymakers are not allowed to have business interests or receive contributions of any kind. Because remember... they're all supposed to be working for the people who elect them. Not the corps with the biggest lobby budget.
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Yes, we know what awesome things Musk could use his money for. We also know what he has actually used his money for.
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A trade war, for now. Trump's expansionist aspirations may kick tensions up a notch or three in the coming years. Might be wise to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country
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Yep. I used to be a fan of SpaceX but now it doesn't matter. If the end of SpaceX means Musk loses power, it's a good thing.
Anything that harms Musk's companies is good for the planet at this point.
Shiny rockets and going to Mars isn't worth it if it's under technofascist rule. Werner von Braun believed that conquering space was the most important thing ever, eclipsing what he viewed as "politics." Would the Third Cosmic Reich have been worth it, just to get us into space?
Fuck no. It's 2025 and new rocket companies are springing up left and right, firing completely new designs for motors that don't even blow up on the first attempt.
Rockets are, essentially, a solved problem. Now it's about engineering the vehicles and infrastructure at scale. Anyone can do this.
Building into space has a clear and straightforward scientific and engineering path. Keeping a republic is far, far, FAR harder.
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Nationalize it.
[Edit: oh hey looks like we do know how to nationalize things - https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/03/trump-says-new-us-sovereign-wealth-fund-could-purchase-tiktok/ ]
[Edit: oh hey looks like we do know how to nationalize things - https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/03/trump-says-new-us-sovereign-wealth-fund-could-purchase-tiktok/ ]
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I actually agree with Doug Ford. FUCK you Elon Musk for making me descend to those depths.
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That's sort of happened but in the backwards way. Musk is functionally president / the US government now.
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Or a telegram which fun fact are a thing that still existsIf I had to I'd rather use a carrier pigeon
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the "rockets über alles" types will never, ever turn their back on the provider of their favorite space-dicks.
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Too late, the entity that could nationalize it is now run by the entity that would be nationalized.
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just came to lament how much i used to love space ars (and stories of space x doing neat things) but, like nearly everything else he gets his grimy fingers on, elon ruined it. fuck elon musk and i wish the worst for him and all his companies.
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Yeah, run government like a business!
Wait, what do you mean my country is now an autocracy run by fiat from the top down and nobody cares about the human widgets at the bottom. Ohno.
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I would really, REALLY prefer not to. But if the act of doing so would break his spirit so badly that he'd go away forever… some things must be done for the greater good.
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I think you're the exception that proves the rule (which is a really bizarre saying/concept). Nobody rational is gonna be mad at someone in that situation.
I was originally talking more about emotional support/leghumping than financial support, to be honest.
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Keith Tanner
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Without looking at the contract, it's hard to say if it's strictly legal but I'll bet it'll get through any review. This is more that just "not liking politics", the US has declared economic war on Canada and Musk is basically part of the government. Note that you won't be able to buy US beer, liquor or wine in Ontario next week either. There's a billion dollars (Canadian) of sales that just disappeared.
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