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Depends on the workplace. Where I work you can get an unfiltered view but that's just so dismal. You'll look at 5 to 10 applications that don't even come close to fitting the job description for every one where you can see why that person applied for that position. So while I can understand the temptation to make a first filter out of some kind of automation (all kinds are called AI now), I don't see that as a good choice. A sort of applications into buckets of "no way" and "maybe" requires actual understanding of what the job description means and what a resume or application means.
 

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I've had below-inflation adjustments repeatedly, with non-stop exceeds expectations. It's the nature of the beast, working for a public university, but it gets old. The only way here to get a real bump is to get promoted, or switch jobs.
having worked for a .edu, no one works there for the pay. Its the benefits and its damn hard to get fired. I have helped make a case against an employee actively stealing from the .edu and they didn't get fired. I know they were still there when I left so I don't know if the investigation ever went anywhere. "Here is video of them. Here are the door access logs. Here is the inventory on day x and day x+1 at EoD. We see employee walk out with the equipment on day x+1. There were no requests or tickets related to that equipment in the two weeks before and after day x." "Thanks!" Radio silence.
 

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We obtained some legal advice on this last year.

Unsurprisingly, it was made extremely clear that legally privileged, customer-proprietary or any other information subject to non-disclosure agreements must not be discussed with an AI agent present in the call, unless positive assurance is obtained that any call data will be, under no circumstances, be used to train or otherwise be disclosed to any persons not present in the call by the agent's operators.

There was also a ... strongly worded suggestion that such assurances ought to be accompanied by an unconditional full indemnification for all and any direct or consequential damages arising from violating those assurances by whoever wants to bring in the agent.

That suggestion may be statement on the current industry practice of "oops, our bad".

Equally unsurprisingly this defacto excludes most off-prem agents.
 

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My experience with resumes is that 95% of them are a giant pack of lies, or at least massive exaggerations.

I got a job about 15 years ago, mainly because I had worked with someone already there who got me an interview. After I got the job, they said my resume was by far the least impressive out of about 6 that they were considering out of many they received. Odd and naive and old-fashioned as it may sound, my resume is honest. If I say I had experience with something, I had experience with it. They brought the other candidates in apparently and it became clear they didn't know much of what was on their resumes. That is just bananas to me. But they told me that without my friend giving me an enthusiastic recommendation, I probably wouldn't have gotten an interview at all. I guess then they would have picked the least-fraudulent of the frauds.

If I were in charge of hiring and someone lied on a resume about skills, my first inclination would be GTFO. It's lack of integrity in my book. But I'm not, so... ;)

It's like selling stuff used I guess. I'm that dude that says "firm price only" (I actually am). (People then immediately lowball me!) Everyone wants to haggle, so you see ridiculous inflated prices just so the haggling game can commence. I can only imagine that companies know resumes are largely crap, and they haggle to see what people really know (?) I suppose if I need to look for a job everagain I'll have to keep up with the Joneses and pack my resume full of bullshit, and worry about how to hem and haw my way through it (as they all do) if I get an interview. There have been people when I've been part of the interviewing team, I feel like asking "how come you didn't put tap-dancing on your resume?'
 
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I generally find that ~25% of the resumes I get for a position merit a first-round phone interview and ~25% of those are worth a follow-up in person. I'm fairly generous about scoring since I get that resume-writing isn't everyone strong suit and isn't what I'm hiring for. But yeah - don't lie. I don't know everything about everything, but I know quite enough about what I'm hiring for to tell if you have real experience or are just BS. Saying "I don't have experience with that" is fine! Really - nobody reasonable expects to find a 100% match between candidate and position description. Lying, OTOH, is a hard deal-breaker.
 
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"Lying" is probably too strong a word for most of it, though yeah that happens too.

e.g. "I know Java". Is taking a week long training class "knowing Java"? Seen that sort of thing quite a bit, to varying degrees. I'm sure I go too far the other way...I tend to only list things that I feel I'd be able to walk in and work on immediately, due to years of production experience with it (of course I would have no institutional knowledge so the reality is, I wouldn't probably, but technically yes.)

I'll get an AI critter to make my next resume. Or better yet, retire in not all that many years :)
 
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But yeah - don't lie. I don't know everything about everything, but I know quite enough about what I'm hiring for to tell if you have real experience or are just BS. Saying "I don't have experience with that" is fine! Really - nobody reasonable expects to find a 100% match between candidate and position description. Lying, OTOH, is a hard deal-breaker.
Plus-MF-plus. No one knows everything. Especially in tech jobs, learning new things is maybe the single most important thing AND being honest about what you need to learn vs. what you already know is right up there too.
 

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Plus-MF-plus. No one knows everything. Especially in tech jobs, learning new things is maybe the single most important thing AND being honest about what you need to learn vs. what you already know is right up there too.
I'm no longer in IC or hands on roles, but I always hated the "rate yourself" concept related to technologies because of the relativity. I might think I'm 6 / 10 on C#, where you might perceive me as 9 / 10, and Anders Hejlsberg would perceive me as 1 / 10. Just have a meaningful conversation about it and let's figure out what we can about the fit.

I'm also a bit more on the side of "try your best, but know you still might get it wrong" with hiring. If pro sports teams spend all that money and can't improve their success rate on it, it's very likely you're going to miss more than you want to as well.
 

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Just have a meaningful conversation about it and let's figure out what we can about the fit.
Completely agree here. I generally ask for some details on how they've used a particular $RESUME_ITEM in anger, what they like about it, what they wish were different, etc. If they can come up with cromulent answers for those talking points then we're probably off to a good start, no matter where they are on a rating scale. The particular tech is often a small part of the hiring puzzle anyway.
 

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I would break my skills portion into three sections. Expert in, Proficient in, Familiar with.

Not going to lie, if the posting said needed experience in X, and X was something I could take a course on in a day or two, it went into familiar with and I'd take a course before the interview, and if they ask I'd say I took a course in it.

But yeah, I've caught people in a lie and they just pretended nothing had happened. It's bad place to be.
 
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I don't lie or embellish my resume either. So, ... it doesn't get past the AI filter.

It shits me, I have co workers who can't identify what DNS does (probably can't even correctly name it) or couldn't argue coherently on
"Which is more important, DNS or DHCP". That is pathetic for the role we fill. (Full stack, on site, IT Support).
 

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I don't lie or embellish my resume either. So, ... it doesn't get past the AI filter.

It shits me, I have co workers who can't identify what DNS does (probably can't even correctly name it) or couldn't argue coherently on
"Which is more important, DNS or DHCP". That is pathetic for the role we fill. (Full stack, on site, IT Support).
I think a little embellishment is expected. Things like "Implemented a new virtualization cluster..." when you were one member of the team, or "Improved SLA compliance by 50%" when your contribution was to write some recommendations to extend the SLA from 4 hours to 8 business hours.

Basically things that are true, but perhaps not entirely your doing or don't necessarily mean what the reader might think at first glance. A resume is a marketing document, after all. Just don't claim that you can do things that you can't and don't try to bluff/make it up when you don't know the answer.
 
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I got a big raise in my base salary this week, which I've been wanting for about a year. Some of the happiness associated with that has been eroded by the tariffs and market being in absolute shambles. I don't know what the right metaphor is, maybe the dudes playing music as the Titanic sinks, where the titanic is the economy.
 

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I got a big raise in my base salary this week, which I've been wanting for about a year. Some of the happiness associated with that has been eroded by the tariffs and market being in absolute shambles. I don't know what the right metaphor is, maybe the dudes playing music as the Titanic sinks, where the titanic is the economy.
I got an unexpectedly big bonus this year...nice to get financially recognized for what was a brutal year, but I have the same feeling. I bought myself a couple small "rewards" with it but feel like just holding on to it for now is the prudent choice.
 
I've started refusing to continue conference calls when AI agents are in them. Interestingly, no one has objected to that constraint.
I've been ejecting the random external AI agents and telling people to stop trying it for... close to a year, I think.

We now have a purely internal AI to do transcription which is wrapping up the pilot phase, supposed to be rolling out soon.
 

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I was working on setting up a financial account today and on multiple occasions ran into Plaid, Inc., and a quick reading of their privacy policy authorizes them to turn me into a data-feed to sell to third parties.

Is it our destiny to be tokenized, analyzed, and force fed whatever the highest bidder chooses?
Most governments, including the big regulatory regimes outside the US, consider financial interoperability highly, highly desirable. In fact, it's an explicit policy goal of both central banks and governments.

So yes.
 

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I've been ejecting the random external AI agents and telling people to stop trying it for... close to a year, I think.

We now have a purely internal AI to do transcription which is wrapping up the pilot phase, supposed to be rolling out soon.
I use an AI agent somtimes. It connects to the audio of my computer and to my microphone, and gets what it needs that way. There is no agent on the call. I take the transcript and run it through Claude with an "extract the action items from this transcript". Depending on the depth/complexity of the technical conversation -- banks like to talk about technical details instead of writing them down -- I may also ask it to extract and distill the relevant technical notes.

I use it in maybe 1 out of 20 meetings. It's only my meetings where I have some work that comes out of the discussions that I need to remember to do. 😬 IDNGAF about other people's meetings.

(I'm very good at what I call improv song and dance routines, and really bad about remembering what I said I would do, and I don't have an EA to take notes for me.)
 
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Most governments, including the big regulatory regimes outside the US, consider financial interoperability highly, highly desirable. In fact, it's an explicit policy goal of both central banks and governments.

Yup. In Europe for example the PSD2 directive forces all banks to provide APIs for core financial services like account balance, transaction history, SEPA transfer including realtime transfers, and similar. If you like the terms of bank A more than B, but B has a better online banking website, you can link your A account into B's online banking, and get a lot of it done.


In the US.

In Europe the GDPR limits this to some extend.

Some parts of the industry will be in for a rude awakening once the inevitable court cases around most tx data not being properly anonymizable, unless you use per-pairing tokens (if you use the same tokens for a participant across all tx with multiple parties you can almost certainly de-anonymize all tokens through network effects if you know the identity of sufficient other tokens, and that is before you include things like location). But of course per-tx-pairing reduces the amount if signal you can extract ...

Interesting point. I’ll have to do some research to see whether transcribing text without names and recording a call are considered different.

Given your job and your counterparties, have you considered using professional services for some of this?

I mean, sure, party consent law for call recordings is not that difficult to research, but the problem is elsewhere: Honestly, that this practice requires this legal consideration is something you might have done well to consider earlier.

Lawyers are expensive, but if all you want to do is to obtain reasonably straight-forward legal advice instead of representation, having an odd half-hour here or there on a call you can ask questions is not that expensive. Plus, it ought to be tax-deductible anyway. You can go through all the things you aren't sure about, obtain legal advice, and unlike your posts here, your internet search history or favors by a mate all questions you ask are covered under attorney/client privilege.

(I run all legal questions that may cause liability for the company through corporate counsel, but questions that may lead to personal liability for me I usually prefer to get answered by my own counsel. My legal protection insurance includes a certain amount they will pay for legal consultations, and that's usually enough to cover those needs; but that particular sector of insurance is far less developed in the US than it is elsewhere unfortunately)
 

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having worked for a .edu, no one works there for the pay. Its the benefits and its damn hard to get fired. I

Well, it could be worse.

The situation could be like mine, where my manager and his manager actively make sure to never hire people who are smarter or know more than they do.

Any kind of technical discussion where either sticks their two cents in, become some kind of weird macho gentalia like measuring contest to prove they are correct on technical things because they're management.

Which is literally not how it works. You're supposed to hire technical types to do/know technical things.

Keep in mind, they only know jargon and how to act political, so that means highly technical roles get filled with hyper political types with little technical skills but amazing ass-kissing skills.

We had several two hour meetings on whether to use underscores or dashes in some equipment names so they can appear in our network equipment alerting system, because the political types want to have long pointless debates and turn us into a standards body rather than a hands on operational technical team.
 

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I got an unexpectedly big bonus this year...nice to get financially recognized for what was a brutal year, but I have the same feeling. I bought myself a couple small "rewards" with it but feel like just holding on to it for now is the prudent choice.
I'm not feeling so great about my company's practices using stock grants rather than cash bonues as incentives these days.
 

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Same. Mine aren't completely worthless, but they've taken a beating.
I got a smallish award that was worth around $10k at a previous employer. They sold ~30% for me to pay the taxes on it when the shares vested. Three years later it's worth a grand total of $451 :D

Fuck you, pay me!
 

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So there's now a new standard with both underscores, dashes and camelCase?
Since the political types don't actually like doing any work, they never completed the work in their assigned locations.

Then it all magically stopped being talked about anymore because they just want something else new to debate and create a "standard" on.
 

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We had several two hour meetings on whether to use underscores or dashes in some equipment names so they can appear in our network equipment alerting system, because the political types want to have long pointless debates and turn us into a standards body rather than a hands on operational technical team.
RFCs 1034 and 1035 didn't make that decision for them? Underscores are not allowed at all.
 

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RFCs 1034 and 1035 didn't make that decision for them? Underscores are not allowed at all.
They don’t know what RFCs are.

And if it would have been brought up, they would simply announce that they would decide what is allowed or not allowed.

This isn’t about logic or rationality but purely ego driven process with no actual effective decision required.
 
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I use an AI agent somtimes. It connects to the audio of my computer and to my microphone, and gets what it needs that way. There is no agent on the call. I take the transcript and run it through Claude with an "extract the action items from this transcript".
Teams notifies everyone that a call is being recorded for legal reason, just like when you call a service number here, all calls start with "calls may be recorded for quality and training purposes".

Maybe that's the trick? If one party announces recording every participant here may do it too. Enable it in Teams and you should be good, or you need to practice your robot / recording annoucement voice.
 

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Teams notifies everyone that a call is being recorded for legal reason, just like when you call a service number here, all calls start with "calls may be recorded for quality and training purposes".

Maybe that's the trick? If one party announces recording every participant here may do it too. Enable it in Teams and you should be good, or you need to practice your robot / recording annoucement voice.
Yep, that is it.