Apple updates all its operating systems, brings Apple Intelligence to Vision Pro

Updates bring new emoji, Mail organization for Macs, easier Mac setup, and more.

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[Kantastic!]

Hopefully this actually fixes the 16e Bluetooth audio issues that have been driving me nuts since I got it

 

[Fred Duck]

Macs running the 15.4 update finally support the same feature (though it won’t work Mac-to-Mac, since a rear-facing camera is a requirement).

A pity. I'd hoped to be able to hold my iMac near a new MBA in this fashion.

 

[Cyrano4747]

Oh god I do not want the mail sorting on my mac. That's was such an annoyance on my phone. Easy enough to turn off, but what a broken feature.

I missed a fair few important emails because it shunted things to "offers" that were not.

edit: apple, please, just stop with the AI crap. If I wanted poorly implemented AI cruft I'd use Window and Android. I mean, I already do, out of necessity. But you get what I mean.

 

[jeromeyers2]

Can't wait to get the image playground!

/s

 

[skreba]

I keep forgetting the Vision Pro is a thing until I see a headline that references it because, while everyone around me is deeply ingrained in the Apple ecosystem, I've never actually seen one IRL.

 

[Anton Longshot]

Dear Tim, I DO NOT want my devices to FAUX THINK or MAKE DECISIONS for me.
Kindly stop before I give up on your beloved ecosystem.

 

[clackerd]

The best things about the iOS update are the security updates and bug fixes and maybe some new emoji

 

[DistinctivelyCanuck]

as a test engineer, I'll happily wait for the '.1' of these

 

[FSTargetDrone]

Still breathlessly waiting for them to fix the bug that is making Notes on my Phone and ipad take up 20+ gigs of space.

 

[spinup]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm actively working to pull myself OUT of the Apple ecosystem due to all the AI stuff being shunted into it. And yes I'm aware I can opt out of this stuff, but the fact alone that Apple has started moving from opt-in to opt-out for their AI rollout gives me incentive to stop using their stuff as much as possible.

I'll never get fully away from the iPhone, not until/unless there's a competitor that isn't Android, but I've moved to other services to replace the Apple services I was using, sold my iPad, and will be selling my Mac Mini soon.

I've used Linux as my primary desktop OS for decades but bought a mac mini a couple of years ago to make it easier to work with my iPhone and iPad... back to nix I go.

Enjoy the alternatives.
Just turn off what you don’t want and move on with life.
Be glad you’re not one of the mindless masses who needs a chatbot to do your writing for you. Sadly, there are many who - apparently - need this “functionality”.

 

[tumblrfan69]

yay, more data harvesting and spying malware for everyone

No this isn't an android update

 

[Daros]

Sounds like this release also fixes the "your login password is incorrect" bug that's been hanging around. RC1 and RC2 did at least.

 

[Secondfloor]

Except data harvested from their users is where Apple gets their data for training apple intelligence?

Don't get me wrong, Apple hasn't gone full hoover like Google and Meta and whatnot so far (at least it doesn't seem like it), but they're still doing the same thing.

Link?

 

[RandolphInTheGreatMidwest]

I know it's only a little thing, but will this update honor my prior opt out of Apple Intelligence?

Robert Earl Keen summed it up years ago: "It's the little things, that piss me off".

 

[muddledzen]

Link?

View attachment 106443

Just went and re-read, I was conflating their web crawling (which is the exact same process used by other AI firms, and was done without permission in the same way) with using specific user-data in private cloud.

Updating my post to reflect that.

 

[williamyf]

I already applied the update to my macmini 2018. painless enough. Going from 14Mbps ADSL to 250Gbps fibre, the insanely big Apple updates are rather quick

the error which, when I press "details" on the configuration of my wi-fi (in system properties) is still not solved .

I'll Apply to my Air 2014 (thanks OCLP) on friday and raport back if anything interesting happens

 

[Mechjaz]

I know it's only a little thing, but will this update honor my prior opt out of Apple Intelligence?

Robert Earl Keen summed it up years ago: "It's the little things, that piss me off".

In my experience it hasn't. I wasn't watching version numbers, but I can tell you that the OS setup has made me decline it on at least two separate occasions, with all of the suggested/highlighted options being On/Enable/etc.

 

[adespoton]

In my experience it hasn't. I wasn't watching version numbers, but I can tell you that the OS setup has made me decline it on at least two separate occasions, with all of the suggested/highlighted options being On/Enable/etc.

My tipping point will be when they move from announced opt-out to unannounced opt-out.

If someone's already said they don't want something, silently re-enabling it should be grounds for a (successful) lawsuit, especially if it has privacy implications.

 

[Delta-Epsilon]

The Mail features are part of Apple Intelligence and so won't be supported on Intel Macs...

This is making Intel Macs look intelligent.

 

[Rosyna]

the error which, when I press "details" on the configuration of my wi-fi (in system properties) is still not solved .

Did you report this via feedback assistant?

 

[Stern]

I know it's only a little thing, but will this update honor my prior opt out of Apple Intelligence?

It seems so, at least it did on my Mac.

 

[williamyf]

I refuse to update to iOS 18.x and all the AI crapola. However, I wish Apple would push out a 17.7.3 update with security fixes pushed out in the 18 updates.

iPhoneOS 17.7.6 was released TODAY. Here is the link.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/122372

The relevant link was in the article...

 

[williamyf]

Did you report this via feedback assistant?

Not, as the error message says "this report will be automaticaly sent to apple". Maybe I will at some point.... or maybe not...

I'have been procatrinating for moths creating an MacOS VM, to run it on bootcamp windows , so windows is baremetal, and MacOS is virtualized (on my macmini 2018), so that i can game on windows and work on Mac for the rest of the life of the machine...

Yes, I know is a cludge, but £€¢¥$ for a new machine will be scarce for the next ~2 years

 

[KiwiPhred]

Can't wait to get the image playground!

/s

Maybe we can get dolphins without extra fins and eyes and anacondas without legs.

 

[Rosyna]

Maybe we can get dolphins without extra fins and eyes and anacondas without legs.

You don’t like biblically accurate AI slop?

 

[Steve austin]

Dear Tim, I DO NOT want my devices to FAUX THINK or MAKE DECISIONS for me.
Kindly stop before I give up on your beloved ecosystem.

I’d actually like an actually useful assistant, which wouldn’t need any info not already on or accessible by the phone. (I’m willing to use constrained requests - I don’t need full pseudo natural language, and have no interest in chatting with my phone.) But the capabilities I’d want would require semantic processing capabilities that probably doesn’t exist, and query/command interfaces to lots of apps that definitely don’t exist. So, not what they are providing.

 

[Epimetheus_Secundus]

A pity. I'd hoped to be able to hold my iMac near a new MBA in this fashion.

I'm not sure what an MBA brings to the party besides a bunch of corporate buzzwords.

 

[ridgeguy]

I didn't need the AI sorting feature in this MacOS update.

Really, I'd have been overjoyed with an OS update that didn't delete all my Smart Mailboxes, which were working just fine for me. Oh, well.

 

[nononsense]

The best things about the iOS update are the security updates and bug fixes and maybe some new emoji

You don't even need new emojis anymore. You can use an image generator to make the picture of the emoji you want and save it to photos. Press and hold your finger on the image and it will isolate the part of the image you selected. When you release, one of the options is 'add sticker'. Once added, you can use these stickers just like an emoji. Just select the sticker option instead of the emoji.

 

[The Sheep Look Up]

I keep forgetting the Vision Pro is a thing until I see a headline that references it

I was just thinking the same thing. Anyone still use those? App ecosystem doing anything?

I'm not sure what an MBA brings to the party besides a bunch of corporate buzzwords.

A double mocha, or he's not getting a tip.

 

[Paul_in_Maine_USA]

Confirmed the old-old iPhone 7 is getting 15.8.4 (was 15.8.3 yesterday, 12 when new)..... oops, failed, retrying, 9 min, 16 min, 7 min..... may have to top-off the battery and wax the WiFi to get this one done. Maybe wait for folks to go to bed, it is peak streaming hour now and a long way to Cupertino.

 

[astack]

but, when I leave Apple, i'll go windows.

Hey-- I'm all for the annoyed-at-Apple sentiment (me too!), but here's a friendly word of advice: Go read one of the Ars columns on Windows 11 updates before committing solely to Windows. Seriously, nowadays it's a race to the bottom in computing and all things internet, but Apple is losing since their products are not getting shittier as quickly as the competition.