The interview downplayed the disease, maligned vaccines, touted unproven treatments
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Anti-vaccine group founded by RFK Jr. weaponizes child’s measles death
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Even if there were, I think we've proven it wouldn't get in the arms where it was needed most.
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Evolution in action. Sad for the kids.
That being said, they had 5 kids, so they are breeding rapidly.
That being said, they had 5 kids, so they are breeding rapidly.
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I guess at this point, for these particular parents, it's a choice between either doubling down on the stupid or coming face to face with the fact that they killed their child through wilful ignorance.
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And, of course, these kids are more likely to be homeschooled, and thus won't learn "fabricated facts" from professionals in school. Brilliant.
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Antivaxxers should literally be shunned. As in, you don't talk to them, you don't work with them, you don't be friends with them, you do not tolerate existing in their vicinity.
Cause a fuss. Lose friends and family. If you don't, PEOPLE WILL FUCKING DIE.
We do not get to ignore our civic responsibility of shared public health because we don't want to have "uncomfortable conversations."
Do NOT be afraid to YELL at these people, IN PUBLIC. If you're at a dinner party and someone says they don't believe in vaccines? Lose your shit. Tell them they're killing people and that it's all because they're insecure over their own intelligence. Tell them their insecurity matters more to them than human life.
Guess what, dinner's over and you may lose more than one friend. You may not get invited back. IT. DOESNT. MATTER.
We judge people who keep the company of racist and bigots we should do the same for pseudoscience. If your friend tolerates bigots, they're not your friend. If your friend tolerates pseudoscience, they're not your friend, either.
We're willing to accept that we should have "uncomfortable conversations about race," for example, but pseudoscience is off the fuckin table. Someone will catch hell in public for a microaggression but if they've contributed to child death, oh well, what's the harm?
Cause a fuss. Lose friends and family. If you don't, PEOPLE WILL FUCKING DIE.
We do not get to ignore our civic responsibility of shared public health because we don't want to have "uncomfortable conversations."
Do NOT be afraid to YELL at these people, IN PUBLIC. If you're at a dinner party and someone says they don't believe in vaccines? Lose your shit. Tell them they're killing people and that it's all because they're insecure over their own intelligence. Tell them their insecurity matters more to them than human life.
Guess what, dinner's over and you may lose more than one friend. You may not get invited back. IT. DOESNT. MATTER.
We judge people who keep the company of racist and bigots we should do the same for pseudoscience. If your friend tolerates bigots, they're not your friend. If your friend tolerates pseudoscience, they're not your friend, either.
We're willing to accept that we should have "uncomfortable conversations about race," for example, but pseudoscience is off the fuckin table. Someone will catch hell in public for a microaggression but if they've contributed to child death, oh well, what's the harm?
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They're cool with 1 in 5 deaths ... and potentially making that decision for others by their own inaction ...
And their kids might still not be fine due to Measles impact on the immune system.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/health/measles-vaccine-immune-system.html
And their kids might still not be fine due to Measles impact on the immune system.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/health/measles-vaccine-immune-system.html
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Back when I went to church (I'm a relatively recent non-churchgoer) one of the women in my church died of COVID. When church came back (early 2021 as I recall), this woman's husband decided that denying COVID, spreading antivax lies, and eliminating masks from the entrances were going to be the most important thing he could stand behind, and to that end he'd heckle every person who wore a mask.
I'm sure the loss is real, but people are so set in their own ways at this point that even something that should be a wake-up call here doesn't faze them.
I'm sure the loss is real, but people are so set in their own ways at this point that even something that should be a wake-up call here doesn't faze them.
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This is the mindset of pre-modern medicine society where there was an "acceptable" attrition rate of children to disease.
The mindset makes sense y'know, before you could actually do something about it.
Now this mindset is actually evil. It's genuinely evil because you can do something to prevent your child from dying that has absolutely no negative externalities or moral qualms of use (fetal stem cells for instance).
Sickening tbh.
The mindset makes sense y'know, before you could actually do something about it.
Now this mindset is actually evil. It's genuinely evil because you can do something to prevent your child from dying that has absolutely no negative externalities or moral qualms of use (fetal stem cells for instance).
Sickening tbh.
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These people never regret any of their decisions, the one person I knew who died of COVID didn't get the vaccine and the whole family blamed everyone and everything but that.
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anecdotal evidence is the best. It worked in the Middle Ages, so let's Middle Ages Great Again
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As a parent, its insane to me that there are people who think one of five children dying is acceptable. Having a daycare that followed the state mandates of full vaccination was way harder than it should have been, and that was always the first question we asked when doing a tour of the facility.
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These people killed their child through gross negligence. The CHD and RFK Jr are going to be directly responsible for the deaths of dozens -- possibly hundreds -- of kids from measles alone. These people are child murderers and we should say so.
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This woman is stuck in the Middle Ages. I wouldn't be surprised if she lets her children work on the fields and mines, too. I guess she needs to move to Ohio soon so that her children can work longer hours.
People like these are a bane to humanity.
People like these are a bane to humanity.
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Even the most simple animals know not to do things that cause them pain. Lab rats will learn to avoid sections of a floor if you run a current through those sections. They'll even learn to move to a safe section of a maze if you supply an environmental stimulant, like a light, that signals pain is coming.
The fact that supposed "smart" animals like humans can experience the pain of losing a child and still believe this stuff is deeply disturbing. If this is how the modern human reasons, we are well and truly fucked.
The fact that supposed "smart" animals like humans can experience the pain of losing a child and still believe this stuff is deeply disturbing. If this is how the modern human reasons, we are well and truly fucked.
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About an hour ago I was thinking about making a comment regarding the how scary the openAI and Character.AI are, and that I would prefer the scary world of Dr. Mole.
After reading this article, I don’t want any of it.
After reading this article, I don’t want any of it.
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I just can't help but laugh. I feel bad for the kid who probably suffered, but jesus christ these people are fucking cretins. Stay isolated from society, idiots, you're a goddamned liability.
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Given the gullibility of all humans and our susceptibility to deliberate disinformation campaigns - yes, even us here - I hope and believe at some point in the future we will regulate free speech somewhat more and criminalize the most egregious of blanket anti-vax/anti-science statements. These people are statistical mass-murderers and should be treated as such.
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I think the tagline of this news story is deeply irresponsible.
It is giving platforms to an antivaxxer and sharing her message with masses. By rule of big numbers, some percentage of people are going to have their antivax sentiment bolstered by this.
This was an ENTIRELY preventable death, and the 'my other kids were fine'. One of them might have immune issues longer term.
It is giving platforms to an antivaxxer and sharing her message with masses. By rule of big numbers, some percentage of people are going to have their antivax sentiment bolstered by this.
This was an ENTIRELY preventable death, and the 'my other kids were fine'. One of them might have immune issues longer term.
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I wish that a child didn't have to die, but if one did have to die, I'm glad it was theirs. After all, they seem cool with it.
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As a person who lives in a heavy Mennonite area, this attitude is pretty prevalent. "God chose to take my child," is the dominant belief. Most often related to a "farm accident".
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What I'm really hearing is that pro-plaguers hate people with Autism so much, they would rather them die horrifically than exist healthily.
Well, thanks, I guess?
Well, thanks, I guess?
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I keep getting told that I have to feel bad for these kids. Their parents want to raise them from cradle to adulthood to think and act like them, and be able to avoid schools and institutions where they can be taught otherwise. Then on the miraculous chance they grow to become voting adults, they make themselves everyone else’s problem even moreso than them carrying the plague.
Fuck that. Anything that wipes the ignorant and their families and their gene pool off the face of the Earth through their sheer stupidity, I’m for that. Treat the kids and adults who aren’t a part the anti-vaxxer lifestyle and refuse to treat the plague cultists.
Fuck that. Anything that wipes the ignorant and their families and their gene pool off the face of the Earth through their sheer stupidity, I’m for that. Treat the kids and adults who aren’t a part the anti-vaxxer lifestyle and refuse to treat the plague cultists.
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Anti-vaxxers should be dumped into the middle of the atlantic with concrete life preservers.
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caution live frogs
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In a sane country, this would be considered child abuse. Instead, Child Protective Services are too busy going after parents who support their kid's gender identity, and ignore the ones who let their kids die of preventable diseases.
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If you are not going to have your child vaccinated, you should not have children.
I said, what I said.
I said, what I said.
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We live in an age where willful ignorance is running rampant. I have little hope for the future of this nation. The US is speeding down a steep slope into a very dark valley.
(Also, thanks again, Dr. Mole, for fighting the good fight.)
(Also, thanks again, Dr. Mole, for fighting the good fight.)
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"The measles wasn't that bad". You had a children taken to an emergency room, then to an ICU, and finally die, and you think that the disease isn't that bad?
What is something bad to you?
Most parents would call an emergency room visit as something bad.
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