The partisan divide on vaccine falsehoods threatens the health of children nationwide.
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31% of Republicans say vaccines are more dangerous than diseases they prevent
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And society as a whole.They’re more likely denying their children the same protection
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I would not have given him the benefit that he got some side effect. I just suspect he is a plain antivaxer.
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I’d support the Darwin Awards these people should win, but of course most of them were probably safely vaccinated before they became alt-woke or whatever.
They’re more likely denying their children the same protection
If you're vaccinated, and then make some sex trophies, and don't get them vaccinated, and they become sterile or die from a disease that they could have been vacinnated for, is that a Darwin Award by Proxy?
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If it were just that, I might be okay with them fucking around and finding out.
Sadly, their children will suffer, the immunocompromised will suffer, the very old and very young will suffer...
When all is tallied up, I don't think it works out as being any sort of bonus.
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A question that tries to look into the future: Do all the anti-vaxxer dies before the MAGA movement dies and those folks go on to find some other cult to believe it? Too bad the Waco Branch Davidians or Jim Jones are not around anymore. They would fit very well.
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Exactly what we're talking about. They aren't saying "just trust us". These vaccines are perhaps the most tested and scrutinized in history and have billions of doses applied and tracked and are fucking safe. You're just being a jackass.
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How much research, data, and evidence do you need? And for how long? And most importantly, from whom? Sounds like you will only listen to information if it comes from certain spaces.
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You'd think right wing politicians, after 2022, would have paid a little attention to how they're declining their own demographic. Old people are most likely to vote. Also most likely to die from SARS-COV-2. Getting them vaccinated to live to vote is a no brainer.
And YET!
And YET!
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You don't need voters if you intend to dismantle representative democracy, after all.
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Yes, conservatives tend to be more susceptible to conspiracy theories.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf1234
We could solve so many problems if we could develop a vaccine against conservativism. Good public education is probably the closest to an anti-conservatism vaccine which likely explains why conservatives work so hard to destroy it.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abf1234
We could solve so many problems if we could develop a vaccine against conservativism. Good public education is probably the closest to an anti-conservatism vaccine which likely explains why conservatives work so hard to destroy it.
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Sadly, it seems like the official Darwin Awards haven't been awarded since 2022. But when they were running, I'm pretty sure that harming an innocent third party was a disqualifying factor.
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The Republican stalwarts may have died, but they died happy (albeit in a lot of pain) knowing that their body was not injected with Bill Gates mind control chips.
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I dunno, man, the fact that millions, if not billions, of these vaccines were administered over the course of three years with incredibly few adverse effects suggests that, on the whole, COVID vaccines are safe. You having a severe adverse effect is not proof that the vaccines are inherently unsafe any more than you winning the lottery is a solid retirement plan.
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OrangeCream
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That’s pretty much the definition of an anti-vaxxer
If you held the same level of concern about car safety after witnessing their fatality rates, you would be essentially saying we can't drive.
To pick apart your whole quote:
As someone who isn't a USA resident, I might be missing something here, but I think it's healthy to be skeptical about vaccines until the evidence is there that they can be trusted.
We have literally hundreds of years of evidence now. The word vaccine literally comes from the word 'from a cow', referencing the discovery that cowpox protects your from smallpox; cowpox has been in use to protect against smallpox since the 16th century
For many vaccines this is the case, but with COVID a set of vaccines was thrust upon us which in hindsight should not have been administered en masse.
You're literally a serial killer. The vaccine recorded 40 or so deaths due to cardiac arrest. In 2022 alone COVID-19 contributed to 244, 986 deaths.
Put another way, in a single data point, 33 people died per 100k if they were unvaccinated, while only 3 people died per 100k if they were vaccinated. Meaning that vaccinating 100k people would prevent 30 deaths. Vaccinating 200k people would prevent 60 deaths.
I'm still suffering the consequences of the improper testing of those vaccines. Sometimes these naysayers have a point. (but in the end the data should prevail)
I feel bad for you, but the data does prevail. We had 111m cases and 1.2m deaths.
Your adverse reaction definitely sucks, but you also were far more likely to die despite the adverse reaction from COVID, which you were able to minimize because of the vaccine.
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"In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote." - Donald Trump, 7/26/24
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Equivalent to saying 31% of republicans are stupid and badly educated. No surprise there but I would have thought the number would have been more like 81%.
Does that make this good news?
Does that make this good news?
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That quote is taken out of context. The context makes it so much worse. He's basically promising a bunch of Evangelicals that he will enact a theocracy and give them everything they could ever want in a way that can't be undone by future administrations. He promised them Gilead in order to secure their votes.
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Anecdotal stories do not amount to much evidence when it comes to medicine. It is the lowest tier of quality evidence.
For the vast majority of people, vaccines are safe but there are others who are harmed by them. That doesn’t mean that they aren’t safe or efficacious.
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Also we've done billions of doses, as close to literally everyone as we can get without loading doses into tranq guns, in the last 4 years. Our more established vaccines have already passed the mass vaccination campaign stage long before most people here can remember and are now just part of the regular set given to children at various ages.
So a fairly normal rate of complications seems inflated because the time scale is compressed.
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OrangeCream
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There has to be a profit first. If they could charge $1k you would see far more ads for it, and you would see demand go up because people instinctively value expensive things as more precious than free things.
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I've previously shared my family story of how the youngest aunt on my mom's side survived paralytic polio as a child. One of her legs had it's growth stunted, and twisted inward, requiring her to use a leg brace with lift for life to be able to walk. A milder outcome than what was possible, which she is thankful for. But the polio vaccine was available when she was a kid, all her older siblings got vaccinated. My grandparents just happened to be convinced by anti-vaxxers of the time that they didn't need to vaccinate their 5th child. My grandmother is in her mid 90's now, she still sometimes shares how much guilt she feels not vaccinating my aunt. My aunt has shared her stories of bullying and abuse for being the only crippled kid in her high school.
My family is a strong data point that vaccines are preferable to the diseases they can prevent. But the crazy thing is, my dad's side of the family is very conservative. They've met my aunt, when we are all here in my town for my paternal grandfather's funeral, so they know her story, yet during COVID two of my uncles became anti-vaxxers anyway. And not just anti-covid vaccines, anti all vaccines. I just don't understand how.
My family is a strong data point that vaccines are preferable to the diseases they can prevent. But the crazy thing is, my dad's side of the family is very conservative. They've met my aunt, when we are all here in my town for my paternal grandfather's funeral, so they know her story, yet during COVID two of my uncles became anti-vaxxers anyway. And not just anti-covid vaccines, anti all vaccines. I just don't understand how.
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“The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed.”
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That is part of Project 2025. First they make the FDA a political appointment so they can replace the head of the FDA at will. Then they tell the FDA head to simply declare that whatever they want to ban is "not safe" and then it's illegal to use in the entire country. This is the plan for contraception, abortion medications, and at least some vaccines among other things.
Remember... Project 2025 becomes Project 2029 if they don't win. And if they don't win in 2028, it will become Project 2033, etc.
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The disease of republicanitis is worse than all of them put together. When national elections are decided by a few hundred votes in tiny districts in a few states, the fewer unvaccinated republicans who show up the better.
I'm at my wits end with these diseased freaks. I absolutely give them the Captain Kirk response ("Let them die!"), and by now I have 0 remorse about it -- the only real sadness I feel is that anyone could be so profoundly, relentlessly stupid.
I'm at my wits end with these diseased freaks. I absolutely give them the Captain Kirk response ("Let them die!"), and by now I have 0 remorse about it -- the only real sadness I feel is that anyone could be so profoundly, relentlessly stupid.
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Gomez Addams
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No, it's not hard at all. People often deserve what they get. Not always, of course, but often.
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Russia or Republicans, does it matter? They're both a threat to public safety and security.
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My Republican FIL remembers his parents literally weeping with joy when the polio vaccine came to their area. Had friends who caught smallpox and were scarred for life. Now he's a full-blown antivaxxer. "That was different."
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