🦄 Domestic consequences of the 2024 US presidential election: the quickening
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I'm tired of winning, could we please stop now?
Yea, well worth the time. The liberal commentariat is freaking out, but missing that this is perfectly normal (for a fascist). Also, they're coming from the old politics, where everyone had positive, but different, aspirations. The MAGA movement has negative aspirations. They want to burn down government, and even the concept of self-rule, and return to something like a monarchy or tsarism.
:Cries in 401K:
Not doing great here either tbqh. Just staying the course and hoping for the best, because what else can I do? I rebalanced mine to 50% US and 50% foreign investments upon inauguration, reasoning that -if the US economy shit the bed- the rest of the world would have a rough time too.
Hoping I'm wrong on the second part.
Yes, this is why I've been saying for weeks that the way to deal with this capriciousness is procedural and operational rebellion.
The largest ports of entry for imported goods to the US, by far, are all controlled by municipalities in very blue States. These ports of entry need to be working together in their own compacts with each other for some very pointed civil disobedience that doesn't abide recognizing or assessing Trump's tariffs.
If they want to put a patina of reasonableness, instead of outright rebellion on it, then they can state that if Congress passes the same tariffs, then they'll comply, and as presented these tariffs look like nothing more than a proposal from the White House to Congress since the White House does not have the authority to institute them.
"But, but, but... what if Trump tries to seize the ports or blockade them!?!?"
F*cking make him have to go that far for his stupid "policies" and wrecklessness. Make him commit. Make him have to actually deal with disruption instead of constantly letting him disrupt us. If that's what he does, then that's where this was all going one way or another. Absolutely nothing has been gained by this relentless capitulation and appeasement. Thus far it's been terminal, no remission in sight.
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As one from the UK, I take a peculiar perspective. It's so nice not to have yanks ask incredulously "What were you thinking?!" vis a vis Brexit etc. We are no longer the stupidest nation on Earth, by a mile. Even Liz Truss had the sense to resign, eventually. Mind you, Boris Johnson had to be forced out.
Huh? The second largest port for imports is Houston, located in the very blue state of Texas. The top ten features Texas three times, Louisiana twice, and the well know Democratic strongholds Georgia and Alabama.
Control for foreign imports. CA & NY/NJ rise to the top.
Then also for non-oil imports, and then even Houston drops out of the mix.
<Looks at Mitch McConnel>
At least your politicians had the sense to get rid of an obviously losing hand. Republicans just aren't that bright.
To paraphrase and tweak a famous line from Jaws, “We’re going to need a bigger head of lettuce.”
Techdirt: ICE contractor "ShadowDragon" is surveilling over 200 websites to monitor for protests
Ars is not on the list, but is this really the only internet surveillance that the regime is conducting? Or that Russia is conducting and providing to Trump?
Ars is not on the list, but is this really the only internet surveillance that the regime is conducting? Or that Russia is conducting and providing to Trump?
FurAffinity and E6? Weird list...
I was going to say. California is the obvious port for all of Asia's exports.
Wouldn't it make more sense to go through the canals/Atlanta if you are shipping to the East Coast?
Well we all know the administrations on litterboxes in classrooms. Not to mention their feelings on furreigners
Jokes aside I think it shows that are exactly planning to target any signs of dissent as grounds for deportation. Speed running the fascist playbook at it's finest.
Aren't the fascists going to invade Panama and take over the canal? It's so hard to keep track of all the winning.
That's how it is with North Americans, when you're famous you can just grab them by the Panama. They'll let you do anything.
IT nerds using surveillance as an excuse to keep track of their favorite furry sites. I'm going to call that a very creative grift.
"No Mister President, that cheetah girl is an illegal immigrant planning on protesting your trans(genic) agenda! It's critical we track everything she posts!"
IT nerds using surveillance as an excuse to keep track of their favorite furry sites. I'm going to call that a very creative grift.
"No Mister President, that cheetah girl is an illegal immigrant planning on protesting your trans(genic) agenda! It's critical we track everything she posts!"
"There's some very important anti-government information hidden in this animation of Chip and Dale railing Gadget Hackwrench. Trust me."
Big Mouth Prick
Ars Centurion
Nah, furry shit is filled with gay men and trans folk after they united to throw out many of the right wing furries.IT nerds using surveillance as an excuse to keep track of their favorite furry sites. I'm going to call that a very creative grift.
"No Mister President, that cheetah girl is an illegal immigrant planning on protesting your trans(genic) agenda! It's critical we track everything she posts!"
This is the digital equivalent of a cop who got thrown out of the gay bar, setting up outside of a gay bar and taking down plates to set up "officer involved shootings" because they wouldn't do him.
SuinusLatinus
Ars Tribunus Militum
I'd suspect that as well as the weird anti-furry energy right-wingers have. Furries tend to be very progressive...
How it started
how its going
Apple has lost one TRILLION dollars since bribing Trump with $1m. What a great investment.
how its going
Apple has lost one TRILLION dollars since bribing Trump with $1m. What a great investment.
SuinusLatinus
Ars Tribunus Militum
This could simply be Newsom posturing without action.
That's also fine. As long as it's relentless and as long as they maintain any amount of credibility that they could/would do it... then it's something for MAGA to have to react to.
The non-MAGA parts of the US have to learn to wield chaos in their favor against MAGA, rather than simply being subject to it the other way around.
Trump & MAGA's depiction of the world is largely static. It's why they were perturbed when the EU was like, "Fine we'll spend more on Defense, and we'll spend it on our own Defense industry." They cannot actually handle their adversaries acting unpredictably. The best thing the opposition can do in ways big and small is to be unpredictable.
Could also be from me just shy of screaming into the mic on Zoom calls or pounding the butt of my fist on bland conference room tables.
But did you take off your shoe to use as a gavel?Could also be from me just shy of screaming into the mic on Zoom calls or pounding the butt of my fist on bland conference room tables.
He also could just be, like, asking them not to (without much to offer given the limited ability a state has to influence official trade policy).
Although, I do wonder what could be done if the companies, states, and foreign governments are collaborating. Maybe there’s some (much smarter version of) “we’ll set up a company that imports the main component of a smartphone, the smartphone, and then we manufacture it by putting it in a box.” (I mean that’s obviously not the right version of the plan, but if I could think of it I guess I’d work for the port).
Yes, one thing about people with a total lack of empathy is that they can't conceive of their opponents as having any agency. It doesn't help that the Democrats frequently behave as though they don't have any agency.
The bribe was to keep Trump from directly attacking Apple. This is just incidental damage.
I think it's posturing because it won't be sustained. Look at the phrasing. Newsom directed the state government to "explore opportunities". He didn't offer a single action, he's soliciting for action...which is why the WH rep was able to act dismissively rather than engage the action as some kind of illegal.
Which I would probably count in posturing, but I do get the difference between doing so for the sake of caring or appearing to care about constituents versus attempting to look tough.
Is it just me or there will be people going to Canada/Mexico to buy stuff and bring them back in USA? Under 800 dollars of goods is exempted from duty still? Or that is going away soon?
The duty limit still exists. And I could see people doing that… however, it really depends how strong or weak the dollar is. Might not be worth the time and cost to travel to get the thing you want.
I'm sure it will be so great for us when the dollar is worth half as much as it is today because the dollar is no longer the world reserve currency.
/s, of course.
I don't believe articles which claim that Trump is actually doing something brilliant. Along with being a hypocrite of the highest order, the man is stupid, childish, mean, capricious and vindictive. Maybe his puppetmasters have connived him into making a good decision - but he sure didn't come up with it himself.
This economic upheaval looks to be disastrous. Long-term trading partners know they cannot trust the USA any longer. Long-term military partners know they cannot trust the USA any longer.
The entire approach is just so stupidly destructive both inside and outside the USA. This whole "DOGE" thing is literally costing more than staying the course (most expensive government spending ever in the early days of Trump Part II). Just the known upheaval at the IRS is going to cost an estimated $500B in lost income because they won't have the resources to go after rich tax cheats.
This all spells rapidly rising government debt, job losses, stagflation, etc.
So yeah - this is really looking like a "black swan event".