RFK Jr.‘s bloodbath at HHS: Blowback grows as losses become clearer

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I honestly can't imagine a more evil group of people than the current administration. These cuts will affect the health of millions of Americans, cause deaths and weaken the entire health system in numerous ways over the coming years. All in the name of making money for themselves and the rich elites.

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Criticism grows as savage cuts to US health agencies come to light​

Come to light?

Trump campaign: I'm going to enact a revenge tour and burn the government to the ground.

Trump regime: I'm enacting a revenge tour and burning the government to the ground.

America, apparently: le shock and le gasp!
 
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Destroying the government to make sure it all completely stops working. That way when corporate America comes in to 'save the day' with an offer to run all the government services -- at a premium an order of magnitude higher than what those services used to cost -- the average American idiot will cheer, oblivious to all the ways they just got completely screwed.
 
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In less than 3 months, Trump is well on his way towards trashing the country's health, education, science, culture, international relations, and with this fucking monster's tariffs announced today, the economy. The only way more destruction could be inflicted is if the son of a bitch launches nuclear attacks at the nation's cities.
God. Damn. Him. To. Hell!

and every person who voted for him or chose to not vote for Harris.
 
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This is all about culture war, there's no "savings" of any sort in this.

"In this war, a danger there is, of losing who we are.” -Mark Twain
It's not even culture war. It's "burn it all down".

Even the meds RFK approves of would be delayed with the staff they're axing.
 
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"Americans will be sicker and face increased health care costs."

Well that is their entire point. Its about making more money for shareholders. And if that means putting more people into debt they can never crawl out from. That is just a "burden" the CEOs in the medical industry will just have to live with.....do I really need to use a /s?
 
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I honestly can't imagine a more evil group of people than the current administration. These cuts will affect the health of millions of Americans, cause deaths and weaken the entire health system in numerous ways over the coming years. All in the name of making money for themselves and the rich elites.

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I have to wonder how this even benefits the rich elites. That money comes from somewhere. Destroy the markets - tariffs, antivax, etc - and it's hard to view it as anything but pure destruction.
 
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Well that is their entire point. Its about making more money for shareholders. And if that means putting more people into debt they can never crawl out from. That is just a "burden" the CEOs in the medical industry will just have to live with.....do I really need to use a /s?
Yes, the/s is useful because we have seen the press sane washing and rationalizing Trump's shenanigans as if he had one great plan. He has not, he is a bona fide idiot. So are the people in his administration. This is just chaos.
 
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I have to wonder how this even benefits the rich elites. That money comes from somewhere. Destroy the markets - tariffs, antivax, etc - and it's hard to view it as anything but pure destruction.
They then get to rebuild it in the image of something like Snow Crash, competing places to have 'citizenship', protection rackets, etc.

EDIT: Thiel and company have basically been publicly fantasizing about this libertarian 'utopia' for years.
 
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And make no mistake, we in the EU will not pick up the slack when it comes to research. We have not raised our research budgets and those who may apply to EU research jobs will gasp at our ridiculous salaries. And lack of public-private ecosystem.

The exodus has always been EU researchers towards the USA. Not the other way around.
And lack of public-private ecosystem.

It's incredibly funny to see this kind of stuff in response to <checks notes> the private half of America eating the public half to death in real-time. Europe, aren't you jealous?!
 
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traumadog

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Well that is their entire point. Its about making more money for shareholders. And if that means putting more people into debt they can never crawl out from. That is just a "burden" the CEOs in the medical industry will just have to live with.....do I really need to use a /s?
Funny thing, axing the regulatory folks tasked with making meds safe would actually delay new meds being released, costing drugmakers money.

That's clearly why PhRMA is complaining now (and not before).
 
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Bhattacharya wrote that the remaining staff will have to find new ways to carry out "key NIH administrative functions, including communications, legislative affairs, procurement, and human resources."

See, that part about "finding new ways", that's the step you take before you fire the people who are currently performing those functions.

I guess he's comfortable admitting that he's an incompetent administrator who clearly has no business being involved in healthcare policy. This isn't a matter of judgement, this is about not even being able to do things in the proper order.
 
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"This will be a painful period," Kennedy said in a video announcement last week.

Funny how you almost always get a protracted painful period right after electing incompetent imbeciles to leadership positions.
I think we can safely chalk this one up to malice.

"This will be a painful period," the sadist with newly found power over those he does not like said with glee. Given his history, it is just hard for me to picture him saying this with anything other than a raging erection.
 
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I don't really agree with that categorization. I don't think they made it clear just how slash and burn they were going to be. There were specific targets, which Republicans had been claiming to want to get rid of for decades (e.g. Depart of Education). But nowhere did they say "We're going to shut down the FDA and Social Security." That would have been very politically dangerous to have said out loud in an election year.

The one thing that was predicting it was Project 2025, and they kept repeatedly lying and saying that wasn't their blueprint.

Even DOGE was a nebulous late-election addition. Trump didn't even mention it until September, and even then it was described as "a complete financial and performance audit of the entire federal government and making recommendations for drastic reforms" It sure as hell wasn't described as "I'll send in a bunch of randos and give them permission to fire everyone at every agency they want to."

So while I'd say that it was their plan, it wasn't one they were shouting from the rooftops during the election.


Bullcrap. Project 2025. Read it. They are doing it step by god damn step. They made it damn clear what the plan was. It's just that the dipshit American public hand waved it away as being fiction. Even though a good chunk of Trumps former and current lackeys wrote it. Spoiler Alert: The doc was not fiction.
 
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Dedale

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And lack of public-private ecosystem.

It's incredibly funny to see this kind of stuff in response to <checks notes> the private half of America eating the public half to death in real-time. Europe, aren't you jealous?!
The public half is not being eaten by the private half. It is destroyed by its own government. As promised.
 
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See, that part about "finding new ways", that's the step you take before you fire the people who are currently performing those functions.

I guess he's comfortable admitting that he's an incompetent administrator who clearly has no business being involved in healthcare policy. This isn't a matter of judgement, this is about not even being able to do things in the proper order.
This assumes he was put in place to do the job of a competent administrator.

He wasn't.
 
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I wouldn't call it suicide. Even Rome is still around. They just aren't what they used to be.
In fact the panem et circenses along with the Trump-like emperors led to the decline of the Western Empire which broke up into individual states (especially in Italy which fragmented into city states) while the Eastern Empire with its much less powerful emperors lasted until 1453. Constantinople itself actually had laws at times banning large corporations - there were guilds but business depended on networks of small tradesmen. Italy did not reunite until the mid-19th century and still retains strong inter-regional rivalries today.

I guess following that analogy, the US would split up into individual large states or groups of smaller ones and Canada would take over the role of the Eastern Empire. Which might be the best outcome.
 
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