Winamp, of all things, gets its first update in 4 years

5.9 RC1 Build 1999 focuses on modernizing Winamp's foundation for more features.

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[Eg07k]

However, I am STILL to this day, and every day
over the last decade or so. Using winamp 2.78

I never switched to anything else. (Maybe mpc player
once in awhile).

But from windows XP. I just copied the files over
to every new computer, tablet I've had. Never
had to update or change it. Still using it on
windows 7, 8.1, and 10.

Kinda like Office 2003 carried over - OS after OS!

 

[Tom Brokaw]

Spoiler

What puts the nail in the [Foobar2k] coffin for me is that a single treeview is just not a suitable control for managing thousands of artists and albums.

That's a bit oversimplistic. There isn't a "single treeview", you can choose album, artist, genre, or year, even though you seem to think that's not possible. See the "View" box in the image below:

Sorting is the most basic form of fuzzy searching, whereas a treeview is only good for walking down a known path and therefor offers little that can't be done with an exact string search.

The most basic form of fuzzy searching is a literal search, which you can do as well.

Say I want to listen to metal performed by an Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonator. I type "Austrian" into the search box, and whaddayaknow, I can see there's one artist matching that name in "Metal Fun", and they have four albums, and those albums have 3, 17, 24, 18 tracks respectively.

I also don't like that every 2nd feature you click opens a child window. Things like playlists should just be available in the main window.

I've not experienced any child windows opening, other than the settings. And the playlists ARE in the main window. See below.

It's not super clear, but you can see that's the "Default" playlist. You can also see there are several other playlist tabs there that are for internet radio stations, such as "Metal Hammer" and "Radio Metal".

There are other UI issues that could be overcome with some acclimatization I'm sure, but why would I when it offers me nothing that winamp does as good or better?

Well, my experience is that Winamp doesn't do things as good or better. Winamp can do a fraction of what Foobar2000 can do, it just feels more comfortable because you're familiar with it.

Seriously, most of the Foobar2k complaints you raise are simply not real. I'm not using some third party skin, the interface I'm using is one of the options presented when you first install Foobar2k.

So functionally it's there, but in terms of UI usability I would call it vastly inferior to winamp.

And I would call the exact opposite.

In addition to all this, it's possible to set up custom views, and to have tabs. Here you can see I have, clockwise from top left:
- a tab panel, with Library currently selected and viewing my Music Sync folder; the tab to the left is a second Library view all my music. From there it's a Playlist Organizer tab, which allows for management of the playlists that are created automatically when I doubleclick files or folders; file Metadata; Shpeck which runs Milkdrop; and EQ should I want that
- Spectrogram visualization with customized colors
- Current playlist
- Three more built in vis from top to bottom: Oscilloscope, VU Meter, and Spectrum
- Album art

You can also see the playhead and simplified metadata at the bottom.
Here's Milkdrop:

I can mass rename files any way I want, browse my entire library any way I want, manage playlists, retag, manage and convert files, set up global hotkeys, etc. Setting it up can be funky, but it's worth it. I export my layout theme so whenever I need to reinstall Windows, I just install Foobar and import the theme, boom, customizations done. And it's all free!

I realize I'm proselytizing, but for anyone who is particular about how they listen to their own files, Foobar2000 really can't be beat, IMO. There may be other use cases than mine that it doesn't meet, so I can't speak to that, but it does everything I want, even when what I want changes.

 

[Systema Encephale]

I realize I'm proselytizing, but for anyone who is particular about how they listen to their own files, Foobar2000 really can't be beat, IMO. There may be other use cases than mine that it doesn't meet, so I can't speak to that, but it does everything I want, even when what I want changes.

I wish there was a Linux port of Foobar2000. It is the one program I run in Wine because I know no native Linux equivalent. It works alright in general, but every once in a while I have to reinstall it from scratch because an update breaks something in the not-emulation.

 

[TheMolesRevenge]

There are some things I'm willing to give up on, such as buying video games on discs, but I'll never rely on only streaming for music.

I'll stop buying CDs when someone invents a way I can take a download to a gig and get it signed by the band.

(Burning the download onto my own physical media doesn't count, that's signing a copy, not the original)

 

[Uragan]

Spoiler

What puts the nail in the [Foobar2k] coffin for me is that a single treeview is just not a suitable control for managing thousands of artists and albums.

That's a bit oversimplistic. There isn't a "single treeview", you can choose album, artist, genre, or year, even though you seem to think that's not possible. See the "View" box in the image below:

Sorting is the most basic form of fuzzy searching, whereas a treeview is only good for walking down a known path and therefor offers little that can't be done with an exact string search.

The most basic form of fuzzy searching is a literal search, which you can do as well.

Say I want to listen to metal performed by an Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonator. I type "Austrian" into the search box, and whaddayaknow, I can see there's one artist matching that name in "Metal Fun", and they have four albums, and those albums have 3, 17, 24, 18 tracks respectively.

I also don't like that every 2nd feature you click opens a child window. Things like playlists should just be available in the main window.

I've not experienced any child windows opening, other than the settings. And the playlists ARE in the main window. See below.

It's not super clear, but you can see that's the "Default" playlist. You can also see there are several other playlist tabs there that are for internet radio stations, such as "Metal Hammer" and "Radio Metal".

There are other UI issues that could be overcome with some acclimatization I'm sure, but why would I when it offers me nothing that winamp does as good or better?

Well, my experience is that Winamp doesn't do things as good or better. Winamp can do a fraction of what Foobar2000 can do, it just feels more comfortable because you're familiar with it.

Seriously, most of the Foobar2k complaints you raise are simply not real. I'm not using some third party skin, the interface I'm using is one of the options presented when you first install Foobar2k.

So functionally it's there, but in terms of UI usability I would call it vastly inferior to winamp.

And I would call the exact opposite.

In addition to all this, it's possible to set up custom views, and to have tabs. Here you can see I have, clockwise from top left:
- a tab panel, with Library currently selected and viewing my Music Sync folder; the tab to the left is a second Library view all my music. From there it's a Playlist Organizer tab, which allows for management of the playlists that are created automatically when I doubleclick files or folders; file Metadata; Shpeck which runs Milkdrop; and EQ should I want that
- Spectrogram visualization with customized colors
- Current playlist
- Three more built in vis from top to bottom: Oscilloscope, VU Meter, and Spectrum
- Album art

You can also see the playhead and simplified metadata at the bottom.
Here's Milkdrop:

I can mass rename files any way I want, browse my entire library any way I want, manage playlists, retag, manage and convert files, set up global hotkeys, etc. Setting it up can be funky, but it's worth it. I export my layout theme so whenever I need to reinstall Windows, I just install Foobar and import the theme, boom, customizations done. And it's all free!

I realize I'm proselytizing, but for anyone who is particular about how they listen to their own files, Foobar2000 really can't be beat, IMO. There may be other use cases than mine that it doesn't meet, so I can't speak to that, but it does everything I want, even when what I want changes.

I decided to take some screenshots of my Foobar setup, since mine looks radically different from yours.

So this is the basic view that I see when I open up Foobar. To the left I have my music folder's directory structure. But I can have it rearranged, like by year, country of release, album artist, album, etc. Below that, I have a few buttons that can add/subtract some more information. In the middle, I have it show me the album art, the title and duration of the track being played, a seekbar that shows the waveform, and then a kind of VU meter with more track information. And to the right, I have the playlist. Tracks/albums/artists can be dragged from the left side to the right and the playlist builds itself. Below that are all basically bog standard buttons which are self explanatory.

In this one, you can see that I can change how my library is displayed and the different choices.

I can change what is displayed on the left side. In this case, I have it show me the track information since I've basically set up the playlist for what I want. (in this example.)

 

[Tom Brokaw]

Spoiler

What puts the nail in the [Foobar2k] coffin for me is that a single treeview is just not a suitable control for managing thousands of artists and albums.

That's a bit oversimplistic. There isn't a "single treeview", you can choose album, artist, genre, or year, even though you seem to think that's not possible. See the "View" box in the image below:

Sorting is the most basic form of fuzzy searching, whereas a treeview is only good for walking down a known path and therefor offers little that can't be done with an exact string search.

The most basic form of fuzzy searching is a literal search, which you can do as well.

Say I want to listen to metal performed by an Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonator. I type "Austrian" into the search box, and whaddayaknow, I can see there's one artist matching that name in "Metal Fun", and they have four albums, and those albums have 3, 17, 24, 18 tracks respectively.

I also don't like that every 2nd feature you click opens a child window. Things like playlists should just be available in the main window.

I've not experienced any child windows opening, other than the settings. And the playlists ARE in the main window. See below.

It's not super clear, but you can see that's the "Default" playlist. You can also see there are several other playlist tabs there that are for internet radio stations, such as "Metal Hammer" and "Radio Metal".

There are other UI issues that could be overcome with some acclimatization I'm sure, but why would I when it offers me nothing that winamp does as good or better?

Well, my experience is that Winamp doesn't do things as good or better. Winamp can do a fraction of what Foobar2000 can do, it just feels more comfortable because you're familiar with it.

Seriously, most of the Foobar2k complaints you raise are simply not real. I'm not using some third party skin, the interface I'm using is one of the options presented when you first install Foobar2k.

So functionally it's there, but in terms of UI usability I would call it vastly inferior to winamp.

And I would call the exact opposite.

In addition to all this, it's possible to set up custom views, and to have tabs. Here you can see I have, clockwise from top left:
- a tab panel, with Library currently selected and viewing my Music Sync folder; the tab to the left is a second Library view all my music. From there it's a Playlist Organizer tab, which allows for management of the playlists that are created automatically when I doubleclick files or folders; file Metadata; Shpeck which runs Milkdrop; and EQ should I want that
- Spectrogram visualization with customized colors
- Current playlist
- Three more built in vis from top to bottom: Oscilloscope, VU Meter, and Spectrum
- Album art

You can also see the playhead and simplified metadata at the bottom.
Here's Milkdrop:

I can mass rename files any way I want, browse my entire library any way I want, manage playlists, retag, manage and convert files, set up global hotkeys, etc. Setting it up can be funky, but it's worth it. I export my layout theme so whenever I need to reinstall Windows, I just install Foobar and import the theme, boom, customizations done. And it's all free!

I realize I'm proselytizing, but for anyone who is particular about how they listen to their own files, Foobar2000 really can't be beat, IMO. There may be other use cases than mine that it doesn't meet, so I can't speak to that, but it does everything I want, even when what I want changes.

I decided to take some screenshots of my Foobar setup, since mine looks radically different from yours.

So this is the basic view that I see when I open up Foobar. To the left I have my music folder's directory structure. But I can have it rearranged, like by year, country of release, album artist, album, etc. Below that, I have a few buttons that can add/subtract some more information. In the middle, I have it show me the album art, the title and duration of the track being played, a seekbar that shows the waveform, and then a kind of VU meter with more track information. And to the right, I have the playlist. Tracks/albums/artists can be dragged from the left side to the right and the playlist builds itself. Below that are all basically bog standard buttons which are self explanatory.

In this one, you can see that I can change how my library is displayed and the different choices.

I can change what is displayed on the left side. In this case, I have it show me the track information since I've basically set up the playlist for what I want. (in this example.)

Very nice. I have to admit that I get tired of the Win98 frame style of the default UI, but I tried Columns UI again the other day and got nowhere with it, plus I do like my default UI vis...es. Maybe I should watch a tutorial or something though, that looks pretty dang good.

 

[Blackbriar Rabbit]

You don't necessarily need Columns UI to achieve most (all?) of Uragan's (very slick!) layout, the Default UI and some number of Components for stuff like the waveform-seekbar etc should suffice.


View > Layout > Enable layout editing mode.


There's very little you could achieve in setting up a custom GUI with Winamp that you can't match or surpass with FB2K and that includes managing the currently playing playlist on the fly. The trick is you have to unlearn the Winamp way and embrace the FB2K paradigm, apply a little lateral-thinking sometimes.


In fact, I'd say you can do stuff with FB2K drag & drop editing that would take serious dedication and skinning effort on Winamp. Plus you can do it all on a running instance of the app while listening to yer chewns.

 

[deep_sky]

So this prompted to go digging for my old collection of mp3s downloaded via Napster/Limewire/etc, and I have found that it has somehow gotten sucked into iTunes(Music), which will make for some effort to reclaim it. Is there a Winamp for the mac?

 

[Uragan]

Spoiler

What puts the nail in the [Foobar2k] coffin for me is that a single treeview is just not a suitable control for managing thousands of artists and albums.

That's a bit oversimplistic. There isn't a "single treeview", you can choose album, artist, genre, or year, even though you seem to think that's not possible. See the "View" box in the image below:

Sorting is the most basic form of fuzzy searching, whereas a treeview is only good for walking down a known path and therefor offers little that can't be done with an exact string search.

The most basic form of fuzzy searching is a literal search, which you can do as well.

Say I want to listen to metal performed by an Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonator. I type "Austrian" into the search box, and whaddayaknow, I can see there's one artist matching that name in "Metal Fun", and they have four albums, and those albums have 3, 17, 24, 18 tracks respectively.

I also don't like that every 2nd feature you click opens a child window. Things like playlists should just be available in the main window.

I've not experienced any child windows opening, other than the settings. And the playlists ARE in the main window. See below.

It's not super clear, but you can see that's the "Default" playlist. You can also see there are several other playlist tabs there that are for internet radio stations, such as "Metal Hammer" and "Radio Metal".

There are other UI issues that could be overcome with some acclimatization I'm sure, but why would I when it offers me nothing that winamp does as good or better?

Well, my experience is that Winamp doesn't do things as good or better. Winamp can do a fraction of what Foobar2000 can do, it just feels more comfortable because you're familiar with it.

Seriously, most of the Foobar2k complaints you raise are simply not real. I'm not using some third party skin, the interface I'm using is one of the options presented when you first install Foobar2k.

So functionally it's there, but in terms of UI usability I would call it vastly inferior to winamp.

And I would call the exact opposite.

In addition to all this, it's possible to set up custom views, and to have tabs. Here you can see I have, clockwise from top left:
- a tab panel, with Library currently selected and viewing my Music Sync folder; the tab to the left is a second Library view all my music. From there it's a Playlist Organizer tab, which allows for management of the playlists that are created automatically when I doubleclick files or folders; file Metadata; Shpeck which runs Milkdrop; and EQ should I want that
- Spectrogram visualization with customized colors
- Current playlist
- Three more built in vis from top to bottom: Oscilloscope, VU Meter, and Spectrum
- Album art

You can also see the playhead and simplified metadata at the bottom.
Here's Milkdrop:

I can mass rename files any way I want, browse my entire library any way I want, manage playlists, retag, manage and convert files, set up global hotkeys, etc. Setting it up can be funky, but it's worth it. I export my layout theme so whenever I need to reinstall Windows, I just install Foobar and import the theme, boom, customizations done. And it's all free!

I realize I'm proselytizing, but for anyone who is particular about how they listen to their own files, Foobar2000 really can't be beat, IMO. There may be other use cases than mine that it doesn't meet, so I can't speak to that, but it does everything I want, even when what I want changes.

I decided to take some screenshots of my Foobar setup, since mine looks radically different from yours.

So this is the basic view that I see when I open up Foobar. To the left I have my music folder's directory structure. But I can have it rearranged, like by year, country of release, album artist, album, etc. Below that, I have a few buttons that can add/subtract some more information. In the middle, I have it show me the album art, the title and duration of the track being played, a seekbar that shows the waveform, and then a kind of VU meter with more track information. And to the right, I have the playlist. Tracks/albums/artists can be dragged from the left side to the right and the playlist builds itself. Below that are all basically bog standard buttons which are self explanatory.

In this one, you can see that I can change how my library is displayed and the different choices.

I can change what is displayed on the left side. In this case, I have it show me the track information since I've basically set up the playlist for what I want. (in this example.)

Very nice. I have to admit that I get tired of the Win98 frame style of the default UI, but I tried Columns UI again the other day and got nowhere with it, plus I do like my default UI vis...es. Maybe I should watch a tutorial or something though, that looks pretty dang good.

I'll admit, I "cheated". I didn't put this together, but I've installed some extra plugins to do what I want. I'd recommend installing the 2021 version from this link.

I think the only two plugins that didn't come with this skin are the Discogs and Scrobble plugins. I've done some tweaks here and there for what I "need" Foobar to do... as in help me properly catalog my music the way I want, tag files, sort files, etc. (I could give you those settings as well, if you wanted.)

 

[Tom Brokaw]

Spoiler

What puts the nail in the [Foobar2k] coffin for me is that a single treeview is just not a suitable control for managing thousands of artists and albums.

That's a bit oversimplistic. There isn't a "single treeview", you can choose album, artist, genre, or year, even though you seem to think that's not possible. See the "View" box in the image below:

Sorting is the most basic form of fuzzy searching, whereas a treeview is only good for walking down a known path and therefor offers little that can't be done with an exact string search.

The most basic form of fuzzy searching is a literal search, which you can do as well.

Say I want to listen to metal performed by an Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonator. I type "Austrian" into the search box, and whaddayaknow, I can see there's one artist matching that name in "Metal Fun", and they have four albums, and those albums have 3, 17, 24, 18 tracks respectively.

I also don't like that every 2nd feature you click opens a child window. Things like playlists should just be available in the main window.

I've not experienced any child windows opening, other than the settings. And the playlists ARE in the main window. See below.

It's not super clear, but you can see that's the "Default" playlist. You can also see there are several other playlist tabs there that are for internet radio stations, such as "Metal Hammer" and "Radio Metal".

There are other UI issues that could be overcome with some acclimatization I'm sure, but why would I when it offers me nothing that winamp does as good or better?

Well, my experience is that Winamp doesn't do things as good or better. Winamp can do a fraction of what Foobar2000 can do, it just feels more comfortable because you're familiar with it.

Seriously, most of the Foobar2k complaints you raise are simply not real. I'm not using some third party skin, the interface I'm using is one of the options presented when you first install Foobar2k.

So functionally it's there, but in terms of UI usability I would call it vastly inferior to winamp.

And I would call the exact opposite.

In addition to all this, it's possible to set up custom views, and to have tabs. Here you can see I have, clockwise from top left:
- a tab panel, with Library currently selected and viewing my Music Sync folder; the tab to the left is a second Library view all my music. From there it's a Playlist Organizer tab, which allows for management of the playlists that are created automatically when I doubleclick files or folders; file Metadata; Shpeck which runs Milkdrop; and EQ should I want that
- Spectrogram visualization with customized colors
- Current playlist
- Three more built in vis from top to bottom: Oscilloscope, VU Meter, and Spectrum
- Album art

You can also see the playhead and simplified metadata at the bottom.
Here's Milkdrop:

I can mass rename files any way I want, browse my entire library any way I want, manage playlists, retag, manage and convert files, set up global hotkeys, etc. Setting it up can be funky, but it's worth it. I export my layout theme so whenever I need to reinstall Windows, I just install Foobar and import the theme, boom, customizations done. And it's all free!

I realize I'm proselytizing, but for anyone who is particular about how they listen to their own files, Foobar2000 really can't be beat, IMO. There may be other use cases than mine that it doesn't meet, so I can't speak to that, but it does everything I want, even when what I want changes.

I decided to take some screenshots of my Foobar setup, since mine looks radically different from yours.

So this is the basic view that I see when I open up Foobar. To the left I have my music folder's directory structure. But I can have it rearranged, like by year, country of release, album artist, album, etc. Below that, I have a few buttons that can add/subtract some more information. In the middle, I have it show me the album art, the title and duration of the track being played, a seekbar that shows the waveform, and then a kind of VU meter with more track information. And to the right, I have the playlist. Tracks/albums/artists can be dragged from the left side to the right and the playlist builds itself. Below that are all basically bog standard buttons which are self explanatory.

In this one, you can see that I can change how my library is displayed and the different choices.

I can change what is displayed on the left side. In this case, I have it show me the track information since I've basically set up the playlist for what I want. (in this example.)

Very nice. I have to admit that I get tired of the Win98 frame style of the default UI, but I tried Columns UI again the other day and got nowhere with it, plus I do like my default UI vis...es. Maybe I should watch a tutorial or something though, that looks pretty dang good.

I'll admit, I "cheated". I didn't put this together, but I've installed some extra plugins to do what I want. I'd recommend installing the 2021 version from this link.

I think the only two plugins that didn't come with this skin are the Discogs and Scrobble plugins. I've done some tweaks here and there for what I "need" Foobar to do... as in help me properly catalog my music the way I want, tag files, sort files, etc. (I could give you those settings as well, if you wanted.)

Yeah, I'd be interested, thanks!

 

[CarbonKich]

I finally have a PC powerful enough to run the visual plugins without slowdown.

 

[Chemical Tribe]

On Linux, there's an app called Audacious. You can set it for the classic Winamp interface. I've been using that for decades. It even accepts the original Winamp skins. I still use my custom skin from littlewhitedog.com. It's an orange and black skin with a silhouette of a little white scotty dog.

All the visualizations and most plugins still work on it.

Yep.

I miss some of the plugins though. They were included with the dvd install of suse iirc. One just can't compile on today's systems.

 

[daveg717]

Never stopped using Winamp, it's always been the perfect lightweight player for my local music collection. Used v2.x from 2000-2013, then upgraded to v5.666 when AOL announced the project was shutting down. For my wedding in 2015 my wife and I made a playlist for the reception and used its crossfade capability to mix the songs together with no gaps. Worked great.

In addition to Winamp, for a long time now, my music tools have remained essentially the same, mostly due to inertia: I run an ancient copy of Plextools from the WinXP or Vista era to rip a CD using my almost-as-ancient Plextor drive (had to swap my IDE version for a SATA back in 2007). The WAV filenames are configured in Plextools to output in the format "Artist - Album - Track - Title.wav". I use All2Lame to encode the WAVs into MP3 and it automatically tags the files by parsing the filenames. Next I use MP3Gain to normalize the volume levels. I can play these files in any player on any device.

 

[Borgmeister]

But does it still whip the llama's ass?

It never stopped whipping. The Llama is sore.

 

[m4rley]

Time to load up Re-AOL and Winamp and feel like it's 1999 again.

 

[ProphetZarquon]

Milkdrop & ProjectM & other visualizers were OK, but they were mostly effects filters laid over a relatively small & high latency set of input data from the audio.

The original VIS system actually gave scope\wave\graph output at far lower latencies, allowing for effects that weren't merely pretty colors vaguely following the "beat", but actually an accurate visual representation of the sound heard, which could then be stretched, mirrored, rendered as point samples flowing across screen, etc.

Later visualizers like Milkdrop offered much richer effects filters, but ultimately failed to deliver the synchronous real-time detailed visualizations of the audio source, provided by the old VIS system.

For this reason, all the visualizer plugins of v3 & above, felt stunted to me, compared to the old VIS?

I don't think I saw anything that really compared until the first time I saw Resolume.

 

[ProphetZarquon]

There are some things I'm willing to give up on, such as buying video games on discs, but I'll never rely on only streaming for music.

I'll stop buying CDs when someone invents a way I can take a download to a gig and get it signed by the band.

(Burning the download onto my own physical media doesn't count, that's signing a copy, not the original)

Posters?

 

[ProphetZarquon]

I finally have a PC powerful enough to run the visual plugins without slowdown.

60fps screen capture for proof?
] ; >

 

[sjlongland]

But does it still whip the llama's ass?

It never stopped whipping. The Llama is sore.

The Llama thinks it's sore… what about the poor donkey?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_wild_ass

 

[Decow Saymoo]

Interesting. No mention of the open source addons you can use with Winamp. I still use it to this day with the Streamripper add on from Sound Forge. I pick a stream and voila, it rips individual songs from the stream, can easily have about 200 or 300 songs by leaving it on overnight. I assumed most people were using it for that.

 

[Dark Empath]

I'll stop buying CDs when someone invents a way I can take a download to a gig and get it signed by the band.

(Burning the download onto my own physical media doesn't count, that's signing a copy, not the original)

Posters?

Nope. There's a big difference between taking a small rigid disc in a small rigid case to a concert, compared to taking a large, creasable, tearable poster to a concert. Especially the kind of concerts I go to.

Now, I have gotten posters signed at a concert, but that was when I won a couple of posters (door prize) at an Alchemist concert. They barely made it out in one piece, and I was given them at the end. I can't imagine taking a poster into a moshpit on purpose.

(The best option is to buy their merch afterwards, then track the band down.)

 

[Dark Empath]

I assumed most people were using it for that.

Not a chance.

Don't you end up with a lot of crap that way? A lot of shit you won't ever put on again? (Not to mention, you have to sort through hours of it to figure out what's worth keeping?)

 

[Decow Saymoo]

"Don't you end up with a lot of crap that way? A lot of shit you won't ever put on again? (Not to mention, you have to sort through hours of it to figure out what's worth keeping?)"


Sure, but I play streams that show me the playlist and just pick the songs I like. But I love music so in general listen to streams where they play most of the music I like, like some jazz stations. I just put them into my mp3 player and then while I run and listen to music I can favorite those songs I want to keep on the player or skip the songs I don't like. Anyway, I have a shit ton of storage so have a file system that deletes repeated songs and I just keep everything else, not like the old days when storage cost an arm and a leg.

 

[Uragan]

Yeah, I'd be interested, thanks!

Let me know when you've installed DarkOne on top of your Foobar install and we'll take the conversation to PM. Some of the tweaks I've done are really specific to how I want F2k to work or how to catalog my music. I'd want to walk you through what I've done and also check if you'd want them or how we can adjust them to your needs/wants.

 

[PsychoStreak]

Sweet. Never found a player that worked closer to how i wanted it to than WinAmp.
Hopefully it still supports the old visualizations.
A new lyrics plugin would be nice too.

 

[jgalvez21]

with the rise of AIMP and foobar, these are better all for music
still a good choice if you have a android mp3 player or wants to sync your local music old version still had ipod support

 

[ubentobox]

Mmmm... Custom winamp skins. The glory days of my early usage of the internet.

I feel like this may inevitably result in me going back to using Rainmeter and Winamp again... Boot priority was on Winamp so you had music blasting almost immediately upon boot. I'd spend a week deciding what my "new theme" was going to be, followed by two weeks of tweaking it juuuuust right. Then you'd watch some new movie or anime and start ALL OVER again.

That said I really could go for some H.R. Giger inspired themes.

 

[gerardcullen]

I remember revision 3 being a big deal because then it was WinaMP3

 

[caseybee]

Anyone remember Audion?

 

[Dark Empath]

Anyone remember Audion?

No.

Should we? Can you give us a hint as to why you remember it? Is there a reason you bring it up now?

Anyone remember Clementine? Because you probably shouldn't, it wasn't very impressive.

 

[Panashi]

Winamp would have taught todays adults in their 40s how to listen to music on desktop.

 

[caseybee]

Anyone remember Audion?

No.

Should we? Can you give us a hint as to why you remember it? Is there a reason you bring it up now?

Anyone remember Clementine? Because you probably shouldn't, it wasn't very impressive.

It was the most customizable music player on any platform. Very fun.
And Clementine was my darling.

 

[daemondazz]

Anybody know if I can run ICQ as well? I'm feeling nostalgic.

Do I get bonus points for still remembering my ICQ number off the top of my head 20 or so years since I used it last?

 

[singularity6]

Hey, anyone know how to deal with the bug where the first track of an album isn't recognized?