Trump’s day-one orders: Saving TikTok, creating DOGE, and ending “censorship”

Sajuuk

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What makes you think it will take four years? Inflation will be double digits by summer. When peoples lives are destroyed, there will be an uprising. Martial Law. Armed gangs in the streets.

If you're not armed now, you better do something about that. You'll need to be.
Conservative economic policies have been destroying lives for decades, and all we do is vote for more of it. You want to see the future of America? Look at Moscow.
 
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SolarMane

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Prosecutorial discretion is supposed to be applied when the harm from the violation is comparatively minor (or there are other substantial mitigating circumstances).

So this is technically prosecutorial discretion, but it's a GROSS distortion of the intent of the power.

Such distortions are par for the course with Republicans.
This is objectively false. This is fundamentally a separation of powers issue.

The executive branch has "exclusive authority and absolute discretion to decide whether to prosecute a case.” United States v. Nixon, 418 U. S. 683, 693 (1974). Decisions about enforcement lie within the “special province of the Executive.” United States v. Armstrong, 517 U. S. 456, 464 (1996). "A lawsuit is the ultimate remedy for a breach of the law, and it is to the President, and not to the Congress, that the Constitution entrusts the responsibility to ‘take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.’" Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U. S. 1, 138 (1976) (quoting U.S. Const., Art. II, §3).

I can continue to cite seminal cases on enforcement discretion, but the above should suffice. The level of harm is irrelevant because, let's be honest, people can disagree about harm. For an example of this, see United States v. Texas, 599 US _ (2023).
 
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It's not so much that as that it's increasingly difficult to find news at all that doesn't contain editorializing or specific viewpoints. Actual objective news is an increasing rarity. I have no issues with opinion pieces and editorial pieces. But an absolute lack of solely fact-based reporting in modern American journalism is problematic, regardless of which side of the aisle your personal ideologies lie on.
Did you read or understand what I wrote? All reporting includes editorial choices. Even pure reportage of facts reflects a selection of which facts and which narrative to emphasize. There is not, and never has been, any such thing as "actual objective news." All reportage carries a bias and an editorial perspective. Given that fact, I would rather that bias be objective, and a case made for a particular reaction or perspective, than pretend both sides and all arguments are equally valid and worth consideration.
 
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What does he have against with wind energy?
Scotland put up an offshore wind farm close to his golf course there. He thought it would ruin the view and sued. He lost in the UK courts.

That's all it takes. Unfortunately, there aren't any wind energy moguls handing him millions of dollars, so he's unlikely to change his mind.
 
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lsherida

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Project 2025 coming to life. We are so screwed. Project 2025 had all of these presidential orders ready to go, waiting for Trump's signature. And he'll sign them all. There will be many, many more horrific things to come, and he'll sign them all. Fuck the idiocracy of this country.
For those of us who are interested in public safety radio systems, screw Project 2025 for stealing the name from Project 25.
 
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Tofystedeth

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Scotland put up an offshore wind farm close to his golf course there. He thought it would ruin the view and sued. He lost in the UK courts.

That's all it takes. Unfortunately, there aren't any wind energy moguls handing him millions of dollars, so he's unlikely to change his mind.
He's just concerned about the birds getting cancer and how it ruins the water pressure in his toilet or something.
 
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trims2u

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Just to clear something up specifically:

Elon is NOT on the Autistic Spectrum.

I have literally dozens of friends who are, all in tech. Have a niece who is. Have doctor friends and associates who have gone into detail as to what to look for from someone on the Spectrum.

Elon fits none of the clinical requirements to be considered autistic in any shape or form.

He does share something in common with many (but certainly not all) "high functioning" autistic people: he behaves in a manner that us "neurotypical" people have long had a very apt word for: ASSHOLE

Having had the (dis)pleasure of talking with Elon several times face-to-face in social settings, I can 100% verify that Elon is an asshole, but not at all any form of an autistic person.

He fully understands social cues. He can entirely parse meaning from other's speech, and knows exactly what he's doing and saying and how it will be received.

Nope, Elon is afflicted with two particular things: (1) an ego larger than his fortune, which insists that Elon must ALWAYS be "the smartest man in the room", and (2) clinical symptoms of narcissism and sociopathy.

NEVER accept anyone trying to claim Elon's behavior is anything other than his own fully informed and aware choice. He knows exactly what he's doing and saying, he just doesn't give a shit about anyone else. Textbook asshole.
 
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ArsCannon

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Strikes me as very odd for Trump to be directly challenging prospects of his new BFF Musk. Lessening the restrictions on non-electric vehicles will likely put a dent in Tesla's profits. Seems like some sort of weird compromise is going on that we're not hearing about. Maybe the pockets are much deeper on the fossil-fuel front. That or maybe someone is playing both sides. Who knows?
 
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It's not so much that as that it's increasingly difficult to find news at all that doesn't contain editorializing or specific viewpoints. Actual objective news is an increasing rarity. I have no issues with opinion pieces and editorial pieces. But an absolute lack of solely fact-based reporting in modern American journalism is problematic, regardless of which side of the aisle your personal ideologies lie on.
But when facts and reality have a liberal bias (IE climate change), then just telling it as it is IS perceived as politically motivated.
 
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For anyone hoping for the courts to stop any of this, even the blatantly unconstitutional stuff, one of the underlying assumptions of the Project 2025 people was that the various hand-picked government agents tasked with enforcing these actions could go ahead and to them regardless of any potential court rulings against them, with the assumption that Trump will just pardon them. Couple that with the SCOTUS decision that presidents are immune from any prosecution beyond impeachment, and oddly enough, the Supremes pretty much neutered their entire branch for themselves.
 
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HiroTheProtagonist

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Thanks again non-voters for thinking it wasn't worth your time to come out.
And a special shout-out to the "my chosen candidate didn't win the primary, so I'm not going to engage" crowd. Really terrific job ensuring that when the system collapses, their ideology will still be trampled underfoot by whatever authoritarian regime rises from the ashes.
 
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jandrese

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This guy really has a problem with wind existing.
Which is doubly surprising when you consider how much hot air he spews.

As for the hostility towards wind power, you have to remember who is actually writing this legislation. Trump doesn't give a crap about turbines, but the Koch brothers do.
 
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Tea_and_Coffee

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Take a deep breath and say to yourself, "I am not a petty, vindictive, masochist like Trump. I will not not wish for the suffering of 100M's to B's of people, even on a comment thread."
"I am not a petty, vindictive, masochist like Trump. I do however have a modicum of critical thinking and know that people who hold these beliefs, which are so damaging to our society and the planet and have already harmed many, will not part with them unless they feel the pain directly. I do not wish to see them suffer, but they need to - even if that is just in a squeeze of their cost of living - otherwise things will only get monumentally worse and worse and worse."

I'll take the downvotes, they are on the right. These people are gleefully accelerating the demise of humanity because of the price of fucking eggs.
 
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LizandreBZH

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So like, where are the articles or forum comments about the positive things Trump has announced? Are you all going to just sit there and focus completely on the negatives? That you can't agree with or name even a single thing Trump has done/announced that you do agree with?

In the interest of fairness and balance, of course. Because all I see right now is a bunch of non-stop complaining and whining.
Enlighten us.
 
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DK2

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Strikes me as very odd for Trump to be directly challenging prospects of his new BFF Musk. Lessening the restrictions on non-electric vehicles will likely put a dent in Tesla's profits. Seems like some sort of weird compromise is going on that we're not hearing about. Maybe the pockets are much deeper on the fossil-fuel front. That or maybe someone is playing both sides. Who knows?
As far as Musk is concerned, Tesla isn't a car company any more. It's a meme stock that props up the rest of Musk's empire. That meme stock has skyrocketed in value since Trump was elected, which far outweighs the significance of EV tax breaks.

In addition, it's highly likely the fine print in the regulations will favor Tesla over its rivals.

The rule for the next 4 years is follow the money. Musk has more of it than anyone else, and is willing to hand more of it to Trump than anyone else, so Musk will come out ahead in everything Trump does. If it looks like Trump is doing something anti-Musk, that will turn out to be an illusion.
 
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Enjoy your "convicted felon" talking point while you can. I guarantee that BS will be overturned on appeal shortly.
It doesn't matter if it gets overturned. He did wrong and bad things.

How is this hard to grasp? Oh right, it's not. You just don't want to accept it because that means challenging yourself. Which you will never do.

Because you are a pathetic coward.

Or, to use your own language, you're a cuck. You do not stand up for yourself.

Shit, you probably didn't even read this far. That's how much of a fucking coward you are. We read through your posts, you will never do that for ours. That's how afraid you are. You won't even read words on a fucking screen because of what a cowardly cuck piece of shit you are.
 
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HiroTheProtagonist

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"I am not a petty, vindictive, masochist like Trump. I do however have a modicum of critical thinking and know that people who hold these beliefs, which are so damaging to our society and the planet and have already harmed many, will not part with them unless they feel the pain directly. I do not wish to see them suffer, but they need to - even if that is just in a squeeze of their cost of living - otherwise things will only get monumentally worse and worse and worse."

I'll take the downvotes, they are on the right. These people are gleefully accelerating the demise of humanity because of the price of fucking eggs.
1. They're already feeling the squeeze of increased CoL
2. Multiple corporations admitted on the record that the majority of price increases were "because we can get away with it"
3. People have supposedly been living with post-vote regret since November

It doesn't matter if Trump personally showed up at their house to brand his name directly into their chests while foreclosing their house, they'll simply conclude that it's all a liberal plot against them and continue to vote for whichever candidate says they hate liberals/minorities the loudest.
 
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Tea_and_Coffee

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Lol, you're going to be proven so wrong. Also, the bitterness and vitriol, where is it coming from? You presumably live in the US, the best country in the world. If you don't like it, move overseas, it ain't difficult. Take this from someone who has lived all over the world, and perhaps have a little more life experience than you do. Relax, it's going to be all right.
I love these inane pithy comments that seem to believe it's going to be alright. All good and fine. Just hunkydory.

Certainly isn't if you happen to be trans, or a minority of colour, or a woman, but I guess the easy way around that is just to try and disappear a whole group of people from "existing" or having "equality" with Project 2025-huffed executive order.

Let's not worry about the people we're harming, let's just look forward to the good stuff - a nice white nuclear family sitting around the table with their Christofascist beliefs, all zoned out on X while wearing their Trump loyalty armbands, and basking in the ashes of the burning undesirables.

But USA USA! Home of freedom of speech; and look how far that bullshit has gotten you lot.
 
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