Traffic deaths rose 8 percent in 2020 despite fewer miles travelled

Preliminary data puts the death toll at 42,060, with 4.8 million people injured.

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[numerobis]

The best skill in driving is learning to drive in such a way that you never need to demonstrate your skill.

(I've stolen that from pilots I know, who say it regarding flying.)

 

[RuledByReason]

Yes of course, if it is not on 'the news' it must not be true. You've been manipulated and conditioned into using terms like 'conspiracy theory' whenever you're too lazy to seek the truth that would be squarely in your face....oh but you've never looked at that evidence, have you? Ya damn fool

I have a very good layman's understanding of physics. I'd guess on the other hand you probably still believe two 110 story towers (and a 47 story tower) fell symmetrically into their own footprints due to 'fire'.

Ah yes, belief in conspiracy theories, the best way to show how smart you are...

(Saved everyone else the need to read another wall of text though - here's the shortcut to knowing it's not worth your time.)

 

[RuledByReason]

Agreed, smart comment. If I could only just leave my cruise control on without the impeders impeding me, ahhh...driving bliss!

The best skill in driving is learning to drive in such a way that you never need to demonstrate your skill.

(I've stolen that from pilots I know, who say it regarding flying.)

 

[RuledByReason]

Yes...the username RuledByReason suggests that I am probably a flakey, insipid, whisical hippie. NOT. Read some Ayn, educate yourself.

I have a very good layman's understanding of physics. I'd guess on the other hand you probably still believe two 110 story towers (and a 47 story tower) fell symmetrically into their own footprints due to 'fire'.

Ah yes, belief in conspiracy theories, the best way to show how smart you are...

(Saved everyone else the need to read another wall of text though - here's the shortcut to knowing it's not worth your time.)

The username made it clear already but thanks for the confirmation.

 

[DKlimax]

Yes of course, if it is not on 'the news' it must not be true. You've been manipulated and conditioned into using terms like 'conspiracy theory' whenever you're too lazy to seek the truth that would be squarely in your face....oh but you've never looked at that evidence, have you? Ya damn fool

I have a very good layman's understanding of physics. I'd guess on the other hand you probably still believe two 110 story towers (and a 47 story tower) fell symmetrically into their own footprints due to 'fire'.

Ah yes, belief in conspiracy theories, the best way to show how smart you are...

(Saved everyone else the need to read another wall of text though - here's the shortcut to knowing it's not worth your time.)

Terminally offtopic and your assertions were thoroughly and completely debunked and destroyed over past decade there is nothing left of them. (Hint: That "fire" had tons of jet fuel...)

If you are so sure of your Truth, come over, section on 911CT is waiting:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... y.php?f=64

Just don't kill yourself in car accident before you get there... (You all are already dying breed of CTers)

 

[cerberusTI]

Yes...the username RuledByReason suggests that I am probably a flakey, insipid, whisical hippie. NOT. Read some Ayn, educate yourself.

I have a very good layman's understanding of physics. I'd guess on the other hand you probably still believe two 110 story towers (and a 47 story tower) fell symmetrically into their own footprints due to 'fire'.

Ah yes, belief in conspiracy theories, the best way to show how smart you are...

(Saved everyone else the need to read another wall of text though - here's the shortcut to knowing it's not worth your time.)

The username made it clear already but thanks for the confirmation.

It appears to be the bad kind of reason which rules you.

 

[runemail]

Enforcing speed limits and lowering speed limits is the best action to lower fatalities.

It's an effective action up to a point and in certain circumstances (e.g. it doesn't make a huge difference* on motorways, but is very effective in urban areas where cars, pedestrians, and cyclists share the same road space), but better driver education is much more effective. The UK has a much, much better road safety record than the US, as does much of Northern Europe, and I think that's largely down to our much harder driving tests.

*To accidents. Over here we have very congested motorways and speed limits can be an effective method of maximising capacity.

Proving my point kind of! It's speed that kills, also on motorways. You can not just makes up your own causality because you think so.

 

[cesarean escape]

It would be interesting to see how the criminals broke down by age.

 

[dimathiel]

Alternatively, we could just enforce our current speed limits. Decreasing the posted limit from 65 to 60 won't change much where the de facto limit is 73.

Decreasing the speed limit will just increase traffic enforcement revenue.

Speed is manageable, look at the autobahn, where the speed issues are resolved by modding the highway, not trying to enforce an unenforceable arbitrary speed limit.

"There are more than 8,000 miles of autobahn in Germany, and about 70 percent have no limits on speed" [1]

So about 6000 miles worth that are unrestricted. to put that in perspective, I live a couple of miles from Interstate 90 and that is 3,020 miles all by itself.

[2] states that it would cost $12M per mile to meet the standards of the Autobahn, but that was in 2003. With inflation that would be $17.3M per mile today and roughly a trillion dollars for just the interstate highway system (~48k miles).

Now, I'd argue that doing so would probably be good. It would employ a shit-ton of people for a long time and there would presumably be some long-term savings as far as maintenance... but what are the odds anyone could get congress to approve such a thing?


[1] https://www.npr.org/2019/01/25/68823264 ... in-the-u-s

[2] https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/0915 ... 42853ed832

Odds of it happening in the US is zero. The only “social” program Americans are enthusiastic about is the military machine they’ve built and sustained.

Every year the federal government spends more than 3X on social programs (social security, Medicare, etc. ) than on the military.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-b ... dollars-go

But you’re only enthusiastic about one social program. The others you put money into only reluctantly.

 

[foxyshadis]

As someone who lives within sight of I95 I can attest that from Thursday to Sunday starting at 10p-until whenever, it straight sounds like test and tune night. You can audibly track speeding cars as they move from one point to another as they haul ass all through the night.

Then every few days I'll hear an engine roar followed by a "Fwhump!". About 20 minutes later I can see a line of brake lights through the trees and emergency vehicles parting the sea.

It's to the point where the family will perk up, look at each other and say "Ooooo! That was one!" when it happens.

The best thing about this is that it could apply anywhere along the entire stretch of I-95 and still be just as believable. Yup, that's just the corridor, from Florida to Maine.