The Expanse S5 review: The show is bigger, bolder, and better than ever

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> The first three episodes of The Expanse's fifth season will be available to stream on Amazon Prime Video on Wednesday, December 16. The remaining seven episodes will become available on a weekly basis through the season finale on February 3, 2021.

Was really looking forward to this releasing this month. Now I'm learning I have to wait until February. Amazon and HBO need to stop this antiquated one-episode-per-week nonsense. It doesn't keep me coming back to their service every week. It just makes me postpone using the service until it is all available.

It's not just Amazon and HBO. Disney+ and CBSAA are both doing it, and Netflix announced they'll start doing it going forward with a couple series. What difference does it make to them if you subscribe for one month and binge when it's released or it's finished?
 
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> The first three episodes of The Expanse's fifth season will be available to stream on Amazon Prime Video on Wednesday, December 16. The remaining seven episodes will become available on a weekly basis through the season finale on February 3, 2021.

Was really looking forward to this releasing this month. Now I'm learning I have to wait until February. Amazon and HBO need to stop this antiquated one-episode-per-week nonsense. It doesn't keep me coming back to their service every week. It just makes me postpone using the service until it is all available.

And the problem with that is...what, exactly?

Eric Kripke insisted on releasing The Boys this way because he felt it kept his viewers in sync better, and built a bit of anticipation for each episode. And I tend to dislike the "I want everything now now now!" demand that appears to be turning into an entitlement rather than a small convenience.
 
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I still don't think I've seen any explicit acknowledgement of the many ideas in this series that are pretty much directly pulled from Larry Niven's Known Space books; the Earth/Mars/Belt dynamic, the culture (including hair styles and language) fo the Belters, the UN as global government, etc. etc. etc.

I can't be the only person to have noticed this?
 
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> Eric Kripke insisted on releasing The Boys this way because he felt it kept his viewers in sync better

What is that even supposed to mean? It was far easier to "stay in sync" when watching two episodes per night over a week than it would have been watching one episode per week over two months.

Ask Kripke. Interviews with him on this topic are easy to find, although if you don't understand what I wrote I doubt hearing it again direct from the creative talent will undig your heels.
 
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I still don't think I've seen any explicit acknowledgement of the many ideas in this series that are pretty much directly pulled from Larry Niven's Known Space books; the Earth/Mars/Belt dynamic, the culture (including hair styles and language) fo the Belters, the UN as global government, etc. etc. etc.

I can't be the only person to have noticed this?

No, you are the only one attributing it to having come from Known Space.

If you postulate humans doing obvious things, like settling/terraforming Mars, having various outposts and colonies in other locations, mining the belt for resources, then you will <SURPRISE> end up with stories about Earth/Mars/Belt dynamics.

UN as a global government isn't much of a reach either.
 
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> The first three episodes of The Expanse's fifth season will be available to stream on Amazon Prime Video on Wednesday, December 16. The remaining seven episodes will become available on a weekly basis through the season finale on February 3, 2021.

Was really looking forward to this releasing this month. Now I'm learning I have to wait until February. Amazon and HBO need to stop this antiquated one-episode-per-week nonsense. It doesn't keep me coming back to their service every week. It just makes me postpone using the service until it is all available.

And the problem with that is...what, exactly?

Eric Kripke insisted on releasing The Boys this way because he felt it kept his viewers in sync better, and built a bit of anticipation for each episode. And I tend to dislike the "I want everything now now now!" demand that appears to be turning into an entitlement rather than a small convenience.

I think Kripke was right and that it's been one of Netflix's biggest problems. Try to imagine the Mandalorian gaining as much traction as it did if they'd just dumped the first season all at once, for instance, or how Game of Thrones was basically mandatory viewing to avoid getting spoilered by or left out of the water cooler conversation. Even Stranger Things doesn't maintain that sort of sustained buzz when a season drops.

Also, personally, it's fun to go on reddit or wherever and talk about the episodes and it's a lot easier to do that with a weekly release. Plus you actually remember a lot more of what happened this way after the fact (although I've seen a compelling argument that Stranger Things season 1 benefited from this since it smoothed over some flaws by just not giving you too much time to dwell on them).

Waiting until it's all out and binging remains an option for those who'd prefer to binge. And I'm guessing that people who'd prefer to binge aren't huge on wanting to talk about every individual episode in detail anyhow so they're not partaking in the conversation either way.

[edit] Also, during COVID times there's something to be said for having stuff to look forward to week to week, but once we get back to normal(ish) then you still have what I said above about it being easier to keep up and participate in the conversation.
 
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> The first three episodes of The Expanse's fifth season will be available to stream on Amazon Prime Video on Wednesday, December 16. The remaining seven episodes will become available on a weekly basis through the season finale on February 3, 2021.

Was really looking forward to this releasing this month. Now I'm learning I have to wait until February. Amazon and HBO need to stop this antiquated one-episode-per-week nonsense. It doesn't keep me coming back to their service every week. It just makes me postpone using the service until it is all available.

And the problem with that is...what, exactly?

Eric Kripke insisted on releasing The Boys this way because he felt it kept his viewers in sync better, and built a bit of anticipation for each episode. And I tend to dislike the "I want everything now now now!" demand that appears to be turning into an entitlement rather than a small convenience.

I feel like the odd man out and say I prefer weekly releases. Binging makes me tune out and forget most of what I saw. I just rewatched the entire series because A) Nothing is on and B) I wanted to get fresh for the new season and I really tuned out season 4 when I binged.

Weekly helps me ruminate on what I saw and builds anticipation for the next episode.

Different strokes and all, so YMMV.

That said, I'm slogging through book 4 right now. Do they get better after that because I'm about 20% through it and if it stays this way I'll skip the next ones.
 
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> The first three episodes of The Expanse's fifth season will be available to stream on Amazon Prime Video on Wednesday, December 16. The remaining seven episodes will become available on a weekly basis through the season finale on February 3, 2021.

Was really looking forward to this releasing this month. Now I'm learning I have to wait until February. Amazon and HBO need to stop this antiquated one-episode-per-week nonsense. It doesn't keep me coming back to their service every week. It just makes me postpone using the service until it is all available.

I understand their desire to create watercooler shows. And there was something particularly magical about about anticipating the next episode of certain shows I adored.

But, unfortunately I no longer have the patience for it. Too much content out there now, and the majority of it can be binged from start to finish. The main drawback for the audience is that great shows last a few hours and are done. Much easier to forget.

I even feel that way about The Expanse. Tremendous show. Remember loving Season 4. But, gonna wait til 5 is fully out to watch. And sad truth is, unless I read a news article about the finale, I'm likely to forget there is a season floating around that I haven't watched yet. Part of the reason is because I don't fully remember season 4, prolly have to rewatch it first to get back into the show. I especially don't remember the ending, though I'm sure it was a cliff hanger. Again, much easier to forget. And we lost something because of that.
 
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Interesting that Amazon is going the same once-per-week release as they did with The Boys. The latter due to Eric Kripke's insistence, but apparently there's some merit in it.

Oddly, I've been doing the same with other fully-available series anyway, doling out my viewing to make it last.

I just wait for the season to be over so I can binge it like "normal." Speaking of, just about time to watch The Mandalorian Season 2 since there's only 1 episode left to be released.

I don't really care for the episode/week format and hope it goes away but it looks more like that's where they are heading (especially for streaming services that don't have a lot of originals).
 
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I still don't think I've seen any explicit acknowledgement of the many ideas in this series that are pretty much directly pulled from Larry Niven's Known Space books; the Earth/Mars/Belt dynamic, the culture (including hair styles and language) fo the Belters, the UN as global government, etc. etc. etc.

I can't be the only person to have noticed this?

Those ideas hardly originated with Larry Niven. The UN, for one thing, IS a world government, and many in science fiction saw it evolving into more in the future, which was natural at the time, in the Star Trek years.
 
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Great serie… sad to see it go with just 5 seasons but i guess is better to end well than drag until damage is done.

OK, you made me Google.

Season 5 isn't the last, but Amazon ordered Season 6 and said that would be it.


The Expanse authors say the show’s only on pause, not canceled, after season 6

Authors S.A. Corey tell Polygon that they came to Amazon prepared for a six-season arc

By Charlie Hall@Charlie_L_Hall Dec 10, 2020, 12:00pm EST

Fans of The Expanse got some mixed messages last month just before Thanksgiving. That’s when Amazon announced that it had ordered a sixth season of the popular science fiction show. Unfortunately, that sixth season would also be its last. The move meant that content from several of the novels that the show is based were basically guaranteed to be left out entirely. Speaking with Polygon on Tuesday, writers Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck declined to call it a cancellation. Instead, they prefer to think of it as a pause.

“We have what we think is a very natural pause point for the story after season 6,” Franck told Polygon during a press event for the new season. “It’ll feel like a satisfying end to the story we’ve been building over the first five seasons. I think one of the things that is sort of an outmoded idea is the idea of being canceled.”

more @ https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/2216 ... yond-plans
 
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Great serie… sad to see it go with just 5 seasons but i guess is better to end well than drag until damage is done.

There's a years long gap in the actual books that the series is based on, so I imagine that's where the cutoff is. They will very well revisit it, but perhaps the author pair will revise the stories a bit more drastically for a future season.
 
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Great serie… sad to see it go with just 5 seasons but i guess is better to end well than drag until damage is done.

OK, you made me Google.

Season 5 isn't the last, but Amazon ordered Season 6 and said that would be it.


The Expanse authors say the show’s only on pause, not canceled, after season 6

Authors S.A. Corey tell Polygon that they came to Amazon prepared for a six-season arc

By Charlie Hall@Charlie_L_Hall Dec 10, 2020, 12:00pm EST

Fans of The Expanse got some mixed messages last month just before Thanksgiving. That’s when Amazon announced that it had ordered a sixth season of the popular science fiction show. Unfortunately, that sixth season would also be its last. The move meant that content from several of the novels that the show is based were basically guaranteed to be left out entirely. Speaking with Polygon on Tuesday, writers Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck declined to call it a cancellation. Instead, they prefer to think of it as a pause.

“We have what we think is a very natural pause point for the story after season 6,” Franck told Polygon during a press event for the new season. “It’ll feel like a satisfying end to the story we’ve been building over the first five seasons. I think one of the things that is sort of an outmoded idea is the idea of being canceled.”

more @ https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/2216 ... yond-plans

They say it's a pause, not an ending.
 
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Great serie… sad to see it go with just 5 seasons but i guess is better to end well than drag until damage is done.

Not sure where you're getting the idea this is a wrap. There are eight books published, a ninth will complete the book series, and I haven't heard that Amazon plans on ending the series.

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Others note that Amazon is kind of ending the series after S6, but not exactly. It sounds more like they're severing the more-or-less strict ties to the novels they've hewed to up to this point, but may continue to follow the general plot line.

The original plan, as I recall, was to end the book series with Book 6, but the publisher convinced them to do another three. There's a logical, open-ended way to bring things to a close at that point if they choose to.
 
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Great serie… sad to see it go with just 5 seasons but i guess is better to end well than drag until damage is done.

OK, you made me Google.

Season 5 isn't the last, but Amazon ordered Season 6 and said that would be it.


The Expanse authors say the show’s only on pause, not canceled, after season 6

Authors S.A. Corey tell Polygon that they came to Amazon prepared for a six-season arc

By Charlie Hall@Charlie_L_Hall Dec 10, 2020, 12:00pm EST

Fans of The Expanse got some mixed messages last month just before Thanksgiving. That’s when Amazon announced that it had ordered a sixth season of the popular science fiction show. Unfortunately, that sixth season would also be its last. The move meant that content from several of the novels that the show is based were basically guaranteed to be left out entirely. Speaking with Polygon on Tuesday, writers Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck declined to call it a cancellation. Instead, they prefer to think of it as a pause.

“We have what we think is a very natural pause point for the story after season 6,” Franck told Polygon during a press event for the new season. “It’ll feel like a satisfying end to the story we’ve been building over the first five seasons. I think one of the things that is sort of an outmoded idea is the idea of being canceled.”

more @ https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/2216 ... yond-plans

They say it's a pause, not an ending.

Nice clueless post contradicting me and using the same link. Did you bother to look?

So you read "The Expanse authors say the show’s only on pause, not canceled, after season 6" and think that they said it's an ending?

Really?
 
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Interesting that Amazon is going the same once-per-week release as they did with The Boys. The latter due to Eric Kripke's insistence, but apparently there's some merit in it.

Oddly, I've been doing the same with other fully-available series anyway, doling out my viewing to make it last.

I just wait for the season to be over so I can binge it like "normal." Speaking of, just about time to watch The Mandalorian Season 2 since there's only 1 episode left to be released.

I don't really care for the episode/week format and hope it goes away but it looks more like that's where they are heading (especially for streaming services that don't have a lot of originals).

Yeah, if you like bingeing, that's certainly still possible. I'm slowly "bingeing" my way through ten years of The Great British Bake Off, but still keeping it down to one episode per evening.
 
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Great serie… sad to see it go with just 5 seasons but i guess is better to end well than drag until damage is done.

OK, you made me Google.

Season 5 isn't the last, but Amazon ordered Season 6 and said that would be it.

I think used the link to explain it.

Stop digging.


The Expanse authors say the show’s only on pause, not canceled, after season 6

Authors S.A. Corey tell Polygon that they came to Amazon prepared for a six-season arc

By Charlie Hall@Charlie_L_Hall Dec 10, 2020, 12:00pm EST

Fans of The Expanse got some mixed messages last month just before Thanksgiving. That’s when Amazon announced that it had ordered a sixth season of the popular science fiction show. Unfortunately, that sixth season would also be its last. The move meant that content from several of the novels that the show is based were basically guaranteed to be left out entirely. Speaking with Polygon on Tuesday, writers Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck declined to call it a cancellation. Instead, they prefer to think of it as a pause.

“We have what we think is a very natural pause point for the story after season 6,” Franck told Polygon during a press event for the new season. “It’ll feel like a satisfying end to the story we’ve been building over the first five seasons. I think one of the things that is sort of an outmoded idea is the idea of being canceled.”

more @ https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/2216 ... yond-plans

They say it's a pause, not an ending.

Nice clueless post contradicting me and using the same link. Did you bother to look?

So you read "The Expanse authors say the show’s only on pause, not canceled, after season 6" and think that they said it's an ending?

Really?

No, I said Amazon said that would be it, as in Amazon isn't going beyond S6.

RIF.
 
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Great serie… sad to see it go with just 5 seasons but i guess is better to end well than drag until damage is done.

OK, you made me Google.

Season 5 isn't the last, but Amazon ordered Season 6 and said that would be it.


The Expanse authors say the show’s only on pause, not canceled, after season 6

Authors S.A. Corey tell Polygon that they came to Amazon prepared for a six-season arc

By Charlie Hall@Charlie_L_Hall Dec 10, 2020, 12:00pm EST

Fans of The Expanse got some mixed messages last month just before Thanksgiving. That’s when Amazon announced that it had ordered a sixth season of the popular science fiction show. Unfortunately, that sixth season would also be its last. The move meant that content from several of the novels that the show is based were basically guaranteed to be left out entirely. Speaking with Polygon on Tuesday, writers Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck declined to call it a cancellation. Instead, they prefer to think of it as a pause.

“We have what we think is a very natural pause point for the story after season 6,” Franck told Polygon during a press event for the new season. “It’ll feel like a satisfying end to the story we’ve been building over the first five seasons. I think one of the things that is sort of an outmoded idea is the idea of being canceled.”

more @ https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/2216 ... yond-plans

Oh, did not knew that.
Thank you for the info. :D
 
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> The first three episodes of The Expanse's fifth season will be available to stream on Amazon Prime Video on Wednesday, December 16. The remaining seven episodes will become available on a weekly basis through the season finale on February 3, 2021.

Was really looking forward to this releasing this month. Now I'm learning I have to wait until February. Amazon and HBO need to stop this antiquated one-episode-per-week nonsense. It doesn't keep me coming back to their service every week. It just makes me postpone using the service until it is all available.

There are divergent views on this topic

https://phys.org/news/2020-12-binge-bad ... iness.html
 
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