Texas measles outbreak climbs to 48 cases, almost all kids; 13 hospitalized

marsilies

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So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.

I can play too.

Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.
So by "I can play too," you're gloating because you think immigrants are the ones getting sick?

What evidence do you have that any of those sick are immigrants?
 
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I live within 100 miles of the outbreak. What the local news reports that's not included in this story is that the outbreak started within a community of Mennonites. I'll not disparage their beliefs but, in this case, their beliefs are doing harm to their neighbors. That area is highly GOP (even more so than the rest of Texas), so there's that, too.
 
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So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.

I can play too.

Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.

I only note that because the immunization rates for kids in Central America isn't anywhere near the 90% low in in the US.
Some of those sick and infected were coming here for a better life.
Okay?

Put that on your child's gravestone "at least some dirty foreigners died"
 
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So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.

I can play too.

Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.

I only note that because the immunization rates for kids in Central America isn't anywhere near the 90% low in in the US.
Some of those sick and infected were coming here for a better life.
Conclusion ?

You are lucky enough to be able to afford vaccination, use this luck.
 
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Sadly, we learned from COVID-19 that this effect would probably take way too many deaths before it could affect change on a societal level.

And that's setting aside that some of the anti-vaxers doubled down in denial even after being infected, accusing hospitals and doctors of lying to them about the disease they or their loved one had.
The ironic part was that they complained so much about vaxxers ripping the piss out of them for getting sick and dying that Reddit almost shut down subs and started banning users "gloating" about antivaxxers and COVID deniers finding out what their fucking around got them.

They're all about "Fuck your feelings" until it's their feelings that get hurt. A whole generation of fragile snowflakes.
 
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Don't hold your breath. Since he just got rid of the National Archives director, my crazy friend just sent me an article from some "news" site:


"National Archives discovery reveals all of Trump's lawsuits and crimes were made up by Biden!"

The guy has a college degree and an executive level job. He believes these sites as the only sources of truth. It feels hopeless.
If I had a friend like that, I would reply back, "You're a fucking idiot. Lose my contact information."
 
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Is it time to isolate Texas from the rest of us?

Texas is like 6'8" 330 pound restaurant waiter with no arms but has an uncontrollable compulsion to scream at the top of their lungs occasionally.

They're big, they're loud, and they don't bring a single thing to the table.
 
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I get the impulse, but the unfortunate reality here is that "you died because your parents are stupid". As easy as it is to dunk on antivaxxers, I feel like people tend to forget that a majority of them are actually vaccinated and they're inflicting this damage on their children and others in their communities while they themselves are perfectly fine because they got their shots at age 5.
The vaccination rate has gone down in the last years. That’s why lots of kindergarten children get ill (they should have been vaccinated this or last year), today’s five year olds are still relatively safe, and ten year olds are quite safe. Because vaccination rate was still high when they should have been vaccinated.

Every year the age of kids becoming victims in an outbreak will grow.
 
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I'm not expecting morons to suddenly become enlightened.

As harsh as it is to say, I just hope sterility (a little known, but often occurring side effect of the measles) and child mortality cuts down on the population of morons going forward. Stupidity should be painful. And if you're stupid enough to avoid doing something that can actually save your kid's life with minimal risks, then you pretty much deserve all the pain that comes from your stupid choices.

But we all know they'll call it "god's will" and keep on being stupid.
Sterility will only start affecting population numbers in 14 years or so. Because plenty of five or six year olds are still vaccinated.
 
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I feel sorry for the children, but I have nothing but laughter for the parents :)
Unfortunately the parents generally won't pay the price, they will be of an age where anti vaxx wasn't such a virulent mind virus, they will mostly have had their shots, just like RFK Jr
 
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There is no threshold of innocent people dying that results in them realizing anything truthful.

We just went through a pandemic. Somehow people unlearned how vaccines work while innocent people died everywhere.
There's a threshold but its not "3 in 1,000". I won't guess at what point they'll start caring, probably enough that everyone has a direct, close friend or relative that's experienced the loss of a non-old, non-frail immediate family member. Even then watch the mental gymnastics they'll go through to blame it on immigrants, DEI, or liberals before they just admit "oh it's a virus that we have a 100% safe and 95ish% effective vaccine for, guess it's my fault for denying that to my child".
 
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The data doesn't really support this. People remained anti-vax in the face of immediate family members dying of COVID. Most became MORE strident about it. It is a mental sickness many Americans are afflicted with. Oppositional Defiance Disorder? Sunk Cost Fallacy? Tribal signifiers that are more important that physical safety? who can really say. We should study this, hey NIH, CDC let’s look into this.....what's that?....oh...never mind.
That’s because the families of people who died from Covid didn’t really think Covid killed them. They blamed it on everything else under the sun. They saw family members who couldn’t breathe.

Measles does not fuck around. It carries with it horribly disfiguring skin lesions that can’t be so easily dismissed. Those kinds of physical symptoms make it clear as creek water that it’s not something else - it’s measles.
 
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Sadly it's going to take innocent people dying to get these morons to realize that they're being morons
Yeah, you'd think that'd do it, but, like ... mass shootings don't seem to have helped gun control efforts. "Only more guns can stop shootings!"

I wouldn't be surprised if the vaccinated started to get the blame for communicable disease. "Only fewer vaccines can stop disease! Lock up the vaccinated!"

Waiting for it ...
 
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So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.

I can play too.

Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.

I only note that because the immunization rates for kids in Central America isn't anywhere near the 90% low in in the US.
Some of those sick and infected were coming here for a better life.
What could be done in situations like this to reduce the spread of disease? Maybe a large scale vaccination program?
 
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The data doesn't really support this. People remained anti-vax in the face of immediate family members dying of COVID. Most became MORE strident about it. It is a mental sickness many Americans are afflicted with. Oppositional Defiance Disorder? Sunk Cost Fallacy? Tribal signifiers that are more important that physical safety? who can really say. We should study this, hey NIH, CDC lets look into this.....what's that?....oh...never mind.
YIL it's called the backfire effect.

Not to spoil the comic, but the oatmeal did an excellent job explaining it - https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
 
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I feel really bad for kids getting this, especially if the adults responsible for them are responsible (I'm not using parents, because parents actually look out for their kids).

If it could only hit people who are in their 20s and up, I'd be 100% for it. Adults can go get their own vaccinations if they choose unless the maggats have already destroyed that too. Otherwise come up to Canada or go to Mexico and get a shot there.
 
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Problematic for: "...adults over the age of 20." Here's the thing, measles as a kid, well it's bad, not good, but usually ride it out at home. Measles as an adult, can you say cerebral hemorrhage? How about renal failure? And there are indications that immunity wanes in the elderly. This means hospitalization and the associated risks.
FWIW - the Antonine plague, the one started the long decline of the Roman Empire, was likely a combination of measles and smallpox. The horses of apocalypse are riding into a town near you!
Getting chickenpox as an adult can be deadly as well. Two anecdata follow:
In college, a bunch of Malaysian students I knew got chickenpox. One was hospitalized. I had a part-time job in the student health clinic at the time. I didn’t recall having chickenpox as a kid (my mom had me exposed to a friend’s child that was sick, but I never got a rash or anything that I recall), so I didn’t work in the wing where the folks that had chickenpox were. Thankfully the folks I knew all recovered.

In grad school, there was a guy who just got his Ph.D. in math after 11+ years. He caught chickenpox and it went to his lungs. He died from viral pneumonia (IIRC he was recovering from the chickenpox infection (a month in the hospital) when he got another virus).

When we had our kids, I told my doctor about my unknown chickenpox status. They did a blood test to confirm that I did have chickenpox at some point. (Just had my shingles vaccines last year. They sucked but much less than the shingles, so I’ve heard.)
 
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Didn't work for the pandemic. I saw families of people whose close family member died of SARS-COVID2 come up with some absolute nonsense of an excuse why a vaccine wouldn't help. I had patients who managed to (often barely) survive a COVID infection refuse vaccination at discharge (which offers additional protection against subsequent infections). Sure, there are people who See The Light but for a large percentage, it's all dark.

(No I don't know why there are two copies of the post. I'm sure it's Obama's fault).
This was my experience as well. I am in East Texas and during the Delta surge it was awful. the vaccine was available but unfortunately, so was Fox News, but by the end. I was out of compassion. I wasn't rude, I just didn't care anymore. Not vaccinated, better start them prayers! Because my hands don't work through Fox News (their god ) like you think they do. Lots of ' I'll be the miracle and show people how I can survive ' to on the ventilator, and then dead. Amazing how many dead optimists there were.
 
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I get the impulse, but the unfortunate reality here is that "you died because your parents are stupid". As easy as it is to dunk on antivaxxers, I feel like people tend to forget that a majority of them are actually vaccinated and they're inflicting this damage on their children and others in their communities while they themselves are perfectly fine because they got their shots at age 5.
It is unfortunate. There is a bit of a natural selection phenomenon going on, they may have successfully passed on their genes to their offspring, but if those offspring then don't survive to reproduce they've selected it back out.
 
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