So by "I can play too," you're gloating because you think immigrants are the ones getting sick?So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.
I can play too.
Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.
Okay?So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.
I can play too.
Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.
I only note that because the immunization rates for kids in Central America isn't anywhere near the 90% low in in the US.
Some of those sick and infected were coming here for a better life.
Conclusion ?So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.
I can play too.
Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.
I only note that because the immunization rates for kids in Central America isn't anywhere near the 90% low in in the US.
Some of those sick and infected were coming here for a better life.
The ironic part was that they complained so much about vaxxers ripping the piss out of them for getting sick and dying that Reddit almost shut down subs and started banning users "gloating" about antivaxxers and COVID deniers finding out what their fucking around got them.Sadly, we learned from COVID-19 that this effect would probably take way too many deaths before it could affect change on a societal level.
And that's setting aside that some of the anti-vaxers doubled down in denial even after being infected, accusing hospitals and doctors of lying to them about the disease they or their loved one had.
The US rises to number 1 in iron lung manufacturing! So much winning...Coming soon in 2026: Hospital Polio wards!
If I had a friend like that, I would reply back, "You're a fucking idiot. Lose my contact information."Don't hold your breath. Since he just got rid of the National Archives director, my crazy friend just sent me an article from some "news" site:
"National Archives discovery reveals all of Trump's lawsuits and crimes were made up by Biden!"
The guy has a college degree and an executive level job. He believes these sites as the only sources of truth. It feels hopeless.
I don't see the relevance of you posting this. Or being on this site at all.I really don't see the relevance of stories like this to Ars Technica.
You've been here 22 years and you don't know where you are?I really don't see the relevance of stories like this to Ars Technica.
Is it time to isolate Texas from the rest of us?
The vaccination rate has gone down in the last years. That’s why lots of kindergarten children get ill (they should have been vaccinated this or last year), today’s five year olds are still relatively safe, and ten year olds are quite safe. Because vaccination rate was still high when they should have been vaccinated.I get the impulse, but the unfortunate reality here is that "you died because your parents are stupid". As easy as it is to dunk on antivaxxers, I feel like people tend to forget that a majority of them are actually vaccinated and they're inflicting this damage on their children and others in their communities while they themselves are perfectly fine because they got their shots at age 5.
I live within 100 miles of the outbreak. What the local news reports that's not included in this story is that the outbreak started within a community of Mennonites. I'll not disparage their beliefs
A lot has happened in the 5 years since you last posted. Keep lurking if this is the quality of discourse you’re going to bring.I really don't see the relevance of stories like this to Ars Technica.
Downvote the trolls then put them on ignore.Asinine drivel
Sterility will only start affecting population numbers in 14 years or so. Because plenty of five or six year olds are still vaccinated.I'm not expecting morons to suddenly become enlightened.
As harsh as it is to say, I just hope sterility (a little known, but often occurring side effect of the measles) and child mortality cuts down on the population of morons going forward. Stupidity should be painful. And if you're stupid enough to avoid doing something that can actually save your kid's life with minimal risks, then you pretty much deserve all the pain that comes from your stupid choices.
But we all know they'll call it "god's will" and keep on being stupid.
Unfortunately the parents generally won't pay the price, they will be of an age where anti vaxx wasn't such a virulent mind virus, they will mostly have had their shots, just like RFK JrI feel sorry for the children, but I have nothing but laughter for the parents![]()
To be fair, checking the Wayback Machine, "Health" has only been in the banner for a few months (it appeared sometime in October 2024).Check your prescription.
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There's a threshold but its not "3 in 1,000". I won't guess at what point they'll start caring, probably enough that everyone has a direct, close friend or relative that's experienced the loss of a non-old, non-frail immediate family member. Even then watch the mental gymnastics they'll go through to blame it on immigrants, DEI, or liberals before they just admit "oh it's a virus that we have a 100% safe and 95ish% effective vaccine for, guess it's my fault for denying that to my child".There is no threshold of innocent people dying that results in them realizing anything truthful.
We just went through a pandemic. Somehow people unlearned how vaccines work while innocent people died everywhere.
Covid can kill you whether you believe in it or not.My eye doctor’s brother is an ER doc in WV. He said many of the patients would get pissed when you told them they had COVID “b’cause it ain’t real.”
Didn't happen when nearly a million of their fellow Americans died of Covid; what possibly makes you think they'll ever realize they're morons?Sadly it's going to take innocent people dying to get these morons to realize that they're being morons
That’s because the families of people who died from Covid didn’t really think Covid killed them. They blamed it on everything else under the sun. They saw family members who couldn’t breathe.The data doesn't really support this. People remained anti-vax in the face of immediate family members dying of COVID. Most became MORE strident about it. It is a mental sickness many Americans are afflicted with. Oppositional Defiance Disorder? Sunk Cost Fallacy? Tribal signifiers that are more important that physical safety? who can really say. We should study this, hey NIH, CDC let’s look into this.....what's that?....oh...never mind.
Happy Pink-and-Red Rash Day!![]()
Yeah, you'd think that'd do it, but, like ... mass shootings don't seem to have helped gun control efforts. "Only more guns can stop shootings!"Sadly it's going to take innocent people dying to get these morons to realize that they're being morons
Just as soon as they can perfect the subscription model.Does anyone still manufacture Iron Lungs? Or is that the next tech bro grifter frontier?
Thoughts and prayers. Sadly this is just an un preventable fact of life.
What could be done in situations like this to reduce the spread of disease? Maybe a large scale vaccination program?So much smug liberal humor over sick and dead kids. Nice.
I can play too.
Yoakum County 38%, Terry County 8%, Lynn County 6% and Gaines County 42%. That's the percentage of people in those counties that are classified as "Foreign born / Illegal" in 2024.
I only note that because the immunization rates for kids in Central America isn't anywhere near the 90% low in in the US.
Some of those sick and infected were coming here for a better life.
Isn’t the Republican Party the Measles Party?Like voting Republican?
YIL it's called the backfire effect.The data doesn't really support this. People remained anti-vax in the face of immediate family members dying of COVID. Most became MORE strident about it. It is a mental sickness many Americans are afflicted with. Oppositional Defiance Disorder? Sunk Cost Fallacy? Tribal signifiers that are more important that physical safety? who can really say. We should study this, hey NIH, CDC lets look into this.....what's that?....oh...never mind.
Getting chickenpox as an adult can be deadly as well. Two anecdata follow:Problematic for: "...adults over the age of 20." Here's the thing, measles as a kid, well it's bad, not good, but usually ride it out at home. Measles as an adult, can you say cerebral hemorrhage? How about renal failure? And there are indications that immunity wanes in the elderly. This means hospitalization and the associated risks.
FWIW - the Antonine plague, the one started the long decline of the Roman Empire, was likely a combination of measles and smallpox. The horses of apocalypse are riding into a town near you!
This was my experience as well. I am in East Texas and during the Delta surge it was awful. the vaccine was available but unfortunately, so was Fox News, but by the end. I was out of compassion. I wasn't rude, I just didn't care anymore. Not vaccinated, better start them prayers! Because my hands don't work through Fox News (their god ) like you think they do. Lots of ' I'll be the miracle and show people how I can survive ' to on the ventilator, and then dead. Amazing how many dead optimists there were.Didn't work for the pandemic. I saw families of people whose close family member died of SARS-COVID2 come up with some absolute nonsense of an excuse why a vaccine wouldn't help. I had patients who managed to (often barely) survive a COVID infection refuse vaccination at discharge (which offers additional protection against subsequent infections). Sure, there are people who See The Light but for a large percentage, it's all dark.
(No I don't know why there are two copies of the post. I'm sure it's Obama's fault).
It is unfortunate. There is a bit of a natural selection phenomenon going on, they may have successfully passed on their genes to their offspring, but if those offspring then don't survive to reproduce they've selected it back out.I get the impulse, but the unfortunate reality here is that "you died because your parents are stupid". As easy as it is to dunk on antivaxxers, I feel like people tend to forget that a majority of them are actually vaccinated and they're inflicting this damage on their children and others in their communities while they themselves are perfectly fine because they got their shots at age 5.