Samsung makes the Galaxy Note 10 official

It's $949 for the Note 10 and $1,099 for the Note 10+, shipping August 23.

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[lambit]

I think we've found the size of bezels a phone has to have for a Ron phone article to not comment on a phone's huge bezels.

I seriously read the article with the expectation that Ron would comment on the "enormous" chin / lower bezel.

 

[Batmanuel]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

You never know when you’ll wind up with 50 feral hogs in your phone memory.

 

[leckig]

O

What, no complaints about how the glass back is slippery and hard to hold? What did you do with the real Ron Amadeo?

Ron's happy because no bezel.

 

[CaptainTightpants]

I think we've found the size of bezels a phone has to have for a Ron phone article to not comment on a phone's huge bezels.

I seriously read the article with the expectation that Ron would comment on the "enormous" chin / lower bezel.

Everyone seems to be forgetting that this isn't a review, but reporting what was announced & shown. I fully expect the complete Ron treatment if he gets his hands on a review device.

 

[Resiroth]

It'll be interesting to see if Samsung includes a decent headphone adapter with the phone, given the anti-consumer decision to remove the headphone jack. No other Android manufacturer has managed to do so, and even Apple's adapters are quite mediocre (I say this as an iPhone user).

Just to go ahead and forestall the trolls:

There is literally only one even half-way pro-consumer reason to remove a headphone jack from a device, and that's if there is a legitimate reason to make the device too thin to fit one in. And since the Note 10 and 10+ phones are thick enough to hold a stylus, that certainly isn't the case here.

Yes, adding wireless options is good. Nobody is disagreeing with that. It's great; you get in your car, wait 30 seconds, and boom, you can make a hands-free phone call, listen to audio, navigate somewhere, whatever.

But they are not a legitimate replacement for a headphone jack. Wireless devices have objectively worse audio quality and a considerably higher price to even approach comparable quality. Many have inherently limited lives, though that's less of an argument for car stereos or audio receivers (though I'd argue that those are examples of use cases where the advantages tend to outweigh the disadvantages anyway).

Maybe you don't care about that, and that's great for you. But mocking people who do care about it doesn't make you somehow smarter or better than those people, it makes you a troll and an @$$hole.

Apple's adapters are very high quality. Higher than some dedicated "audiophile" adapters at 10x the price in fact: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru ... ters.5541/

Maybe you aren't a big of an audiophile as you think?

Side note the adapter actually is higher quality than the iphone 6s jack: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/what-is ... 11/page-20 (scroll down)

Which is why some people with older iphones actually use the adapter just for the audio quality (which I also think is overkill but whatever).

Side note: I 100% get why people are annoyed about the jack being removed, but that doesn't change the data showing the adapter is superior to the original iphone jack it replaced.

 

[UnnDunn]

It'll be interesting to see if Samsung includes a decent headphone adapter with the phone, given the anti-consumer decision to remove the headphone jack. No other Android manufacturer has managed to do so, and even Apple's adapters are quite mediocre (I say this as an iPhone user).

Just to go ahead and forestall the trolls:

There is literally only one even half-way pro-consumer reason to remove a headphone jack from a device, and that's if there is a legitimate reason to make the device too thin to fit one in. And since the Note 10 and 10+ phones are thick enough to hold a stylus, that certainly isn't the case here.

Yes, adding wireless options is good. Nobody is disagreeing with that. It's great; you get in your car, wait 30 seconds, and boom, you can make a hands-free phone call, listen to audio, navigate somewhere, whatever.

But they are not a legitimate replacement for a headphone jack. Wireless devices have objectively worse audio quality and a considerably higher price to even approach comparable quality. Many have inherently limited lives, though that's less of an argument for car stereos or audio receivers (though I'd argue that those are examples of use cases where the advantages tend to outweigh the disadvantages anyway).

Maybe you don't care about that, and that's great for you. But mocking people who do care about it doesn't make you somehow smarter or better than those people, it makes you a troll and an @$$hole.

Why should I pay extra for a headphone jack that I don't need or use? If you desperately need a headphone jack, go buy it yourself in the form of an adapter. Don't make the rest of us pay for it just so that you can pretend to be an audiophile.

 

[rek]

Meh. All this makes me think my Note 9 was a smart purchase at the time (and a great deal now for those looking for a stylus phone, now it's the "old model" and ripe for discounting)

A sensible top bezel instead of the silly cut out, great performance, SD card, great battery (albeit not user replaceable), waterproof, headphone jack, excellent pen, ... It even came with a good bumper cover right in the box.

I guess the Note 9 will take the mantle of the Note 4 as the next "last sensibly designed Samsung phone before they went a bit bonkers"

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

No headphone jack and a hole punch screen means zero support from me. I've been a loyal customer, having bought the Note 2 and Note 8 as my last two phones. If I need a new phone, it'll either be another Note 8, a Note 9 or another brand of phone. Let's hope Samsung learns their lesson and fixes it for the Note 11.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

Looks nifty. As an iOS user, I'm glad my Samsung friends lose their ability to hang microSD and headphone jack features over my head ;-). Now we can all suffer together.

Nah, we are all still rocking our Note 8s or 9s. We're not interested in this POS.

 

[AdmiralThrawn]

I never thought I'd need to wish for Samsung to flop again after their S6 debacle (after murdering the beautiful, wonderful S5) but now, with the removal of both the headphone jack and the SD slot - yes, it's time to ridicule Samsung again.

I find it very amusing that they took down all their anti-dongle videos. You're so effing basic, Samsung; everyone can see it from a mile away.

 

[Roland the Gunslinger]

I have a Note 9, I love it. I also use the headphone jack for output and external mic input, it's a deal breaker for me sadly. I will have to look to another model for my next upgrade, pity I do like the Note.

 

[stuza]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

For me, when i'm walking around our construction site checking device installs my personal S9 opens up our huge configuration data spreadsheets and massive DWG's far better than the company supplied A10. Part of that will be CPU of course, but part will also be the RAM (A10 4gb free v's 6gb free according to Running Services).

It could be quicker and extra RAM may help that.

 

[dogwitch]

I apologize to all the readers who are sick of hearing this but in case someone from Samsung is in here.

No Jack No Sale
No SD No Sale

It's time we took to the tweets armed with hashtags

that consider heresy here.

 

[stuza]

I'd never buy a phone that wouldn't fit in my back pocket. :/

I get mildly irritated when I see a person with a large phone peeking out of their back pocket. I can imagine the crunch if they accidentally sit on their $1,000 phone.

Super satisfying crunch

Except they don't "crunch". All the years, all the phones, always kept in my back pocket and sat on quite frequently and never had any damage due to this.

 

[stuza]

No MicroSD slot? No sale for me.

I must admit, i used to be quite addicted to my microSD slots until one day, Huawei persuaded me to detour (foolishly!) to an Oppo Find X. I purchased a tiny little USB C/Micro SD key ring dongle and everything was fine again ... at least on this part. The Find X had other issues so, i'm now back to a Samsung Note 9.

In addition, carrying around microSD 128gb on a tiny little USB adapter has come in handy when I simply didn't have my phone to hand. I was quite surprised how beneficial it was for me to change having been addicted to phones with microSD for so long.

 

[obarthelemy]

I have to admit, as much as I like stylus-based smartphones, these severely disappoint. You're paying very premium pricing and not really getting much except a "new corporate vision" which (I expect like most people) I don't actually have any shits to give about. Not being an acolyte of any corporation's offerings, I won't gush unless the corporation delivers.

This didn't deliver.

I still read the reviews, and look at the specs, because I'm enough of a technophile to want to know what's out there. But this doesn't get my technonerd blood raging to buy one. It's only "OK" at best, and that price and feature set makes it very much not worth buying only "OK".

My rants remain as always:

- A consumer-replaceable battery.
- A consumer installed expandable storage - the higher the capacity the better.
- A headphone jack (because I have a lot of headphones).
- A 13 mb or above main camera (front camera 5 mb is all you really need)

Hit all those checkpoints, and the rest is negotiable. I'm not hard to please. But despite massive improvements in speed and performance, they're taking away the things I want and replacing them with things I don't care about, and certainly things that would make me walk away shaking my head.

Am I such an outlier that the things I want in a good smartphone aren't things most people want? My impression of the trends that eliminated most of the things I want (except the cameras - they're usually better today than my minimum) has been thinking it's a drive for corporate profits and increased planned obsolescence with the belief that the consumer will just have to accept it.

I'd LOVE to see a decent phone with great specs and those features (or better) offered today at the high-end. There's no technical reason why that can't happen. I believe it's all about captured markets and pumping up profits. But if these are features that people are fine with getting rid of, then I'm definitely out of step with the cell phone world.

Genuine question, no sarcasm inferred: I'm curious why you choose to use wired headphones over BT headphones? Did your parenthetical "(because I have a lot of headphones)" mean you switch between them regularly when doing different things on your phone so it's easier to just unplug one set and plug another one in?

- BT = one more doodad or 2 or 3 to charge
- ... via micro-USB when my phones and tablets are USB-C, so moar cables :-(
- BT = can run out of battery = must carry at least 2
- BT = more expensive, or worse sound for same price, or both
- BT = batteries = more pollution
- BT = batteries = limited lifespan
- no audio jack = no wired headset to act as antenna = no FM radio
- BT = a bit of lag, for some reason, which is a pain in games
- BT = some bugs, about once a week I have to disconnect and turn off on both phone and headset and then turn on and reconnect, for some reason.

So... meh.

 

[random_slacker]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

For gacha games obviously.

 

[kopetepanda]

Weird looking front camera, headphone jack's gone, only 3500mah battery for Note10 ? Looks like a major downgrade from Note9.

 

[orangpelupa]

...

If you run out of RAM on a phone (perhaps you have too many tabs, photos, or apps open), your phone will starting shutting down apps in the background to free up more RAM for apps in the foreground. On a Mac or PC, if you run out, it will attempt to simulate having more RAM by writing the excess RAM contents to storage. This is extremely slow (relative to how fast RAM is), and is why having more RAM usually makes computers seem faster....
Memristors are one example.

Android actually have "tombstone" feature where some kind of "State" will be saved before the app got killed, so when yo go back to it, you will back to the app as if it hasnt been killed (albeit slower to respond).

in reality, even google's own app seldom to use that feature

Android also allow moving stuff from RAM to pagefile (swap partition / file) but AFAIK, its only Xiaomi with MIUI that did that. For other android, need to manually enable swap. for some other, swap is completely removed from the kernel.

 

[notinheritable]

I have to admit, as much as I like stylus-based smartphones, these severely disappoint. You're paying very premium pricing and not really getting much except a "new corporate vision" which (I expect like most people) I don't actually have any shits to give about. Not being an acolyte of any corporation's offerings, I won't gush unless the corporation delivers.

This didn't deliver.

I still read the reviews, and look at the specs, because I'm enough of a technophile to want to know what's out there. But this doesn't get my technonerd blood raging to buy one. It's only "OK" at best, and that price and feature set makes it very much not worth buying only "OK".

My rants remain as always:

- A consumer-replaceable battery.
- A consumer installed expandable storage - the higher the capacity the better.
- A headphone jack (because I have a lot of headphones).
- A 13 mb or above main camera (front camera 5 mb is all you really need)

Hit all those checkpoints, and the rest is negotiable. I'm not hard to please. But despite massive improvements in speed and performance, they're taking away the things I want and replacing them with things I don't care about, and certainly things that would make me walk away shaking my head.

Am I such an outlier that the things I want in a good smartphone aren't things most people want? My impression of the trends that eliminated most of the things I want (except the cameras - they're usually better today than my minimum) has been thinking it's a drive for corporate profits and increased planned obsolescence with the belief that the consumer will just have to accept it.

I'd LOVE to see a decent phone with great specs and those features (or better) offered today at the high-end. There's no technical reason why that can't happen. I believe it's all about captured markets and pumping up profits. But if these are features that people are fine with getting rid of, then I'm definitely out of step with the cell phone world.

Genuine question, no sarcasm inferred: I'm curious why you choose to use wired headphones over BT headphones? Did your parenthetical "(because I have a lot of headphones)" mean you switch between them regularly when doing different things on your phone so it's easier to just unplug one set and plug another one in?

Existing earphones, ease of use (especially with in line volume/play/skip controls) and sound quality mainly.

I got a S10+ and galaxy buds (from preordering the phone)

Overall, the galaxy buds are taking over for the daily on the go use, but if I'm sitting in a airport, at home, and etc, I'm using the wired earphones/headphones. Also, if it's not self pairing as easily as the galaxy buds for samsung phones, or ipod airs for apple phones, it's a huge pain in the ass to pair shit with bluetooth every time or waiting for it to pair or etc.

I still use my wired earbuds/headphones mostly because I don't want to spend another $300-400 to re-buy everything and get a similar audio quality from it and also have that delay for pairing.

TLDR: we don't want to drop another couple hundred bucks for new equipment when the existing ones already work without issues and plugging in a wire is easier than messing around to pair BT.

I agree, sound quality is much better with wired compared to BT and BT kills my battery as well.

 

[CptJeanLuc]

Should be good for picking up women in bars. "Is that a phablet in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"

 

[andygates]

I'd never buy a phone that wouldn't fit in my back pocket. :/

You do you.

The fact that these big devices sell like absolute gangbusters indicates there's a healthy market for them, though.

 

[andygates]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

Don’t you know that bigger numbers are better? Someone will be along shortly saying it makes it better than an iPhone.

There's a whole market segment that buys "more numbers is better" - not wishing to stereotype, but India, China and leet gamer boys love to spec shop first and experience-shop second. Bigger screen, bigger memory, crunchier processors, more camera rez, moar screen pixelzz, TWO s-pens and a 5-blade razor.

 

[Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer]

It'll be interesting to see if Samsung includes a decent headphone adapter with the phone, given the anti-consumer decision to remove the headphone jack. No other Android manufacturer has managed to do so, and even Apple's adapters are quite mediocre (I say this as an iPhone user).

Just to go ahead and forestall the trolls:

There is literally only one even half-way pro-consumer reason to remove a headphone jack from a device, and that's if there is a legitimate reason to make the device too thin to fit one in. And since the Note 10 and 10+ phones are thick enough to hold a stylus, that certainly isn't the case here.

Yes, adding wireless options is good. Nobody is disagreeing with that. It's great; you get in your car, wait 30 seconds, and boom, you can make a hands-free phone call, listen to audio, navigate somewhere, whatever.

But they are not a legitimate replacement for a headphone jack. Wireless devices have objectively worse audio quality and a considerably higher price to even approach comparable quality. Many have inherently limited lives, though that's less of an argument for car stereos or audio receivers (though I'd argue that those are examples of use cases where the advantages tend to outweigh the disadvantages anyway).

Maybe you don't care about that, and that's great for you. But mocking people who do care about it doesn't make you somehow smarter or better than those people, it makes you a troll and an @$$hole.

Apple's adapters are very high quality. Higher than some dedicated "audiophile" adapters at 10x the price in fact: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru ... ters.5541/

Maybe you aren't a big of an audiophile as you think?

Side note the adapter actually is higher quality than the iphone 6s jack: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/what-is ... 11/page-20 (scroll down)

Which is why some people with older iphones actually use the adapter just for the audio quality (which I also think is overkill but whatever).

Side note: I 100% get why people are annoyed about the jack being removed, but that doesn't change the data showing the adapter is superior to the original iphone jack it replaced.

They’re flimsy, easily-destroyed pieces of garbage. It doesn’t matter what the sound quality is when they’re so fragile.

 

[dogwitch]

No MicroSD slot? No sale for me.

I must admit, i used to be quite addicted to my microSD slots until one day, Huawei persuaded me to detour (foolishly!) to an Oppo Find X. I purchased a tiny little USB C/Micro SD key ring dongle and everything was fine again ... at least on this part. The Find X had other issues so, i'm now back to a Samsung Note 9.

In addition, carrying around microSD 128gb on a tiny little USB adapter has come in handy when I simply didn't have my phone to hand. I was quite surprised how beneficial it was for me to change having been addicted to phones with microSD for so long.

right.. that a usb key chain... they been around a longggggggggggg time

 

[Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer]

It'll be interesting to see if Samsung includes a decent headphone adapter with the phone, given the anti-consumer decision to remove the headphone jack. No other Android manufacturer has managed to do so, and even Apple's adapters are quite mediocre (I say this as an iPhone user).

Just to go ahead and forestall the trolls:

There is literally only one even half-way pro-consumer reason to remove a headphone jack from a device, and that's if there is a legitimate reason to make the device too thin to fit one in. And since the Note 10 and 10+ phones are thick enough to hold a stylus, that certainly isn't the case here.

Yes, adding wireless options is good. Nobody is disagreeing with that. It's great; you get in your car, wait 30 seconds, and boom, you can make a hands-free phone call, listen to audio, navigate somewhere, whatever.

But they are not a legitimate replacement for a headphone jack. Wireless devices have objectively worse audio quality and a considerably higher price to even approach comparable quality. Many have inherently limited lives, though that's less of an argument for car stereos or audio receivers (though I'd argue that those are examples of use cases where the advantages tend to outweigh the disadvantages anyway).

Maybe you don't care about that, and that's great for you. But mocking people who do care about it doesn't make you somehow smarter or better than those people, it makes you a troll and an @$$hole.

Why should I pay extra for a headphone jack that I don't need or use? If you desperately need a headphone jack, go buy it yourself in the form of an adapter. Don't make the rest of us pay for it just so that you can pretend to be an audiophile.

Why should we settle for needlessly flimsy adapters just because you, as the minority, don’t have the need for a physically robust headphone jack?

 

[Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer]

It’s the same thing with you trolls, every time. It isn’t about the best sound quality, it’s about decent sound quality that doesn’t require needless adapters to replace nigh-universal connectors.

 

[SwedBear]

I have a Note9 which I am very satisfied with. I was thinking of getting the Note 10 but now I'm a bit unsure. The main issue for me is actually though JUST the lack of headphone jack.

- I have no issues living without a user changeable battery. Even when I had phones where I could change battery I never had a spare with me all the time. I much rather have full wireless charging.

- I can live without SD-support. Now that the phones come with 128 GB, 256 GB and 512 GB i personally never have had any need to add even more memory. I have tons of stuff on the phone and it still is far from full. however - I fully understand those who have the need, for example to quickly pop in a memory card with stuff they want to look at. I think using a memory reader => USB-C might be an (not optimal though) solution for that issue.

- The "hole" does not annoy me at all even though I think the small bezel on the Note9 works fine. I cannot get used to the huge notch on my wifes iPhone though. So if they have to do a "notch", a small hole is my personal favourite.

The lack of headphone jack though is a bit negative for me. yes, I got the Galaxy Buds. And people talking to me while I walking complain about the bad sound quality. I have the latest BOSE noice-canceling over-the-ear headphones but they are big and I always seem to forget to charge them. I sue them mainly at work.

So the ones I mainly use while commuting still are the ones that came with the phone. I also know that if I forget to charge any of my BT-headphones I can just pick up any of the bunch of wired ones I have lying around.

A dongle is ok but just looking at my wife who frequently must hunt around for her adapter (she hates it) i know I will loose it.

If I understood it correctly though the Note10 will ship with USB-C headphones so it is possible that will work. I just wish there were a better selection out there with USB-C headphones.

I guess I will keep my Note9 a while longer and see how the S11 looks (I don't use the pen that much anymore so I can live without it). As far as I know the Pixel 4 won't be released in Sweden (hey google, we exist!) and OI'm to lazy to import.

 

[JPan]

No headphone jack and only an SD card in the 1100$ model. Good luck with the sales. Display looks cool though

 

[xex360]

Moving backwards, the screen is of lower resolution (at least for the smaller Note 10), no headphone jack and no SD card, and a hole to ruin the already mediocre experience, this phone doesn't deserve the name Note.

 

[timber]

I have to admit, as much as I like stylus-based smartphones, these severely disappoint. You're paying very premium pricing and not really getting much except a "new corporate vision" which (I expect like most people) I don't actually have any shits to give about. Not being an acolyte of any corporation's offerings, I won't gush unless the corporation delivers.

This didn't deliver.

I still read the reviews, and look at the specs, because I'm enough of a technophile to want to know what's out there. But this doesn't get my technonerd blood raging to buy one. It's only "OK" at best, and that price and feature set makes it very much not worth buying only "OK".

My rants remain as always:

- A consumer-replaceable battery.
- A consumer installed expandable storage - the higher the capacity the better.
- A headphone jack (because I have a lot of headphones).
- A 13 mb or above main camera (front camera 5 mb is all you really need)

Hit all those checkpoints, and the rest is negotiable. I'm not hard to please. But despite massive improvements in speed and performance, they're taking away the things I want and replacing them with things I don't care about, and certainly things that would make me walk away shaking my head.

Am I such an outlier that the things I want in a good smartphone aren't things most people want? My impression of the trends that eliminated most of the things I want (except the cameras - they're usually better today than my minimum) has been thinking it's a drive for corporate profits and increased planned obsolescence with the belief that the consumer will just have to accept it.

I'd LOVE to see a decent phone with great specs and those features (or better) offered today at the high-end. There's no technical reason why that can't happen. I believe it's all about captured markets and pumping up profits. But if these are features that people are fine with getting rid of, then I'm definitely out of step with the cell phone world.

Genuine question, no sarcasm inferred: I'm curious why you choose to use wired headphones over BT headphones? Did your parenthetical "(because I have a lot of headphones)" mean you switch between them regularly when doing different things on your phone so it's easier to just unplug one set and plug another one in?

In my case because I don't like to charge batteries, keep track of them and their chargers and it is also nice that there isn't an expire date on my hardware.
I also tend to use headphones in 2 situations, airplanes (no batteries and no wireless are pluses) and in bed (no wires not so important).
I don't really care about audio quality but that can also be a relevant concern.

 

[Deleted member 174040]

It'll be interesting to see if Samsung includes a decent headphone adapter with the phone, given the anti-consumer decision to remove the headphone jack. No other Android manufacturer has managed to do so, and even Apple's adapters are quite mediocre (I say this as an iPhone user).

Just to go ahead and forestall the trolls:

There is literally only one even half-way pro-consumer reason to remove a headphone jack from a device, and that's if there is a legitimate reason to make the device too thin to fit one in. And since the Note 10 and 10+ phones are thick enough to hold a stylus, that certainly isn't the case here.

Yes, adding wireless options is good. Nobody is disagreeing with that. It's great; you get in your car, wait 30 seconds, and boom, you can make a hands-free phone call, listen to audio, navigate somewhere, whatever.

But they are not a legitimate replacement for a headphone jack. Wireless devices have objectively worse audio quality and a considerably higher price to even approach comparable quality. Many have inherently limited lives, though that's less of an argument for car stereos or audio receivers (though I'd argue that those are examples of use cases where the advantages tend to outweigh the disadvantages anyway).

Maybe you don't care about that, and that's great for you. But mocking people who do care about it doesn't make you somehow smarter or better than those people, it makes you a troll and an @$$hole.

Apple's adapters are very high quality. Higher than some dedicated "audiophile" adapters at 10x the price in fact: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/foru ... ters.5541/

Maybe you aren't a big of an audiophile as you think?

Side note the adapter actually is higher quality than the iphone 6s jack: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/what-is ... 11/page-20 (scroll down)

Which is why some people with older iphones actually use the adapter just for the audio quality (which I also think is overkill but whatever).

Side note: I 100% get why people are annoyed about the jack being removed, but that doesn't change the data showing the adapter is superior to the original iphone jack it replaced.

They’re flimsy, easily-destroyed pieces of garbage. It doesn’t matter what the sound quality is when they’re so fragile.

Let him live in his own alternative reality.

 

[Deleted member 1]

Another new thing is DeX for PC, I didn't see this mentioned in the article. According to the source link, this allows you to use DeX applications on your PC (or Mac) instead of using a DeX dock (or USB-C to Display cable) to get an entire desktop. This would actually be pretty handy I think... I use DeX a lot on my S8 and this would be a very interesting feature to have. Some apps are only available on mobile, and sometimes you're working on a PC where you don't want to install too much stuff.

You can already use dex without a dex dock.... it was a software trigger/you can do it with various usb C hubs.

I know, that's why I said "(or USB-C to Display cable)".

What's new is that you can now view the DeX desktop on a PC or Mac.

 

[sadatoni]

What, no Note 9 comparisons?

 

[Magic Man]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

Have you ever used a Samsung smartphone? No matter how much RAM they add, it always only has about 600MB of free memory thanks to all the services they push into them.

Free memory is wasted memory

 

[SyfirSto]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

That'll definitely come in handy with heavy DeX use. Especially now that you can run a full Linux environment on it.

99% of people that buy this phone won't use it for that, more than likely will be teens toggling around Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, SoundCloud, and Music.ly all at the same time.

 

[Statistical]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

Have you ever used a Samsung smartphone? No matter how much RAM they add, it always only has about 600MB of free memory thanks to all the services they push into them.

Free memory is wasted memory

Strange that in 2019 people still don't get that.

 

[UnnDunn]

It'll be interesting to see if Samsung includes a decent headphone adapter with the phone, given the anti-consumer decision to remove the headphone jack. No other Android manufacturer has managed to do so, and even Apple's adapters are quite mediocre (I say this as an iPhone user).

Just to go ahead and forestall the trolls:

There is literally only one even half-way pro-consumer reason to remove a headphone jack from a device, and that's if there is a legitimate reason to make the device too thin to fit one in. And since the Note 10 and 10+ phones are thick enough to hold a stylus, that certainly isn't the case here.

Yes, adding wireless options is good. Nobody is disagreeing with that. It's great; you get in your car, wait 30 seconds, and boom, you can make a hands-free phone call, listen to audio, navigate somewhere, whatever.

But they are not a legitimate replacement for a headphone jack. Wireless devices have objectively worse audio quality and a considerably higher price to even approach comparable quality. Many have inherently limited lives, though that's less of an argument for car stereos or audio receivers (though I'd argue that those are examples of use cases where the advantages tend to outweigh the disadvantages anyway).

Maybe you don't care about that, and that's great for you. But mocking people who do care about it doesn't make you somehow smarter or better than those people, it makes you a troll and an @$$hole.

Why should I pay extra for a headphone jack that I don't need or use? If you desperately need a headphone jack, go buy it yourself in the form of an adapter. Don't make the rest of us pay for it just so that you can pretend to be an audiophile.

Why should we settle for needlessly flimsy adapters just because you, as the minority, don’t have the need for a physically robust headphone jack?

Headphone jacks are disappearing because those who still use them are in the minority. This is basic business logic. Most of us have moved on to wireless headphones. You can yell and scream and stamp your feet all you want, the phone makers know the stats, they know the majority of high-end phone buyers don't need or care for the Headphone jack, and the people complaining about it are a vocal minority.

Apple ditched the Headphone jack years ago, and its iPhone sales didn't decline one iota. Face it, the Headphone jack is dead.

 

[DDRundo]

12GB RAM on a phone, for what?

For the Mental Masturbation Gymnastics Finals!

Duh!!!
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[afidel]

Protip: Get the international version of this phone. These often only carry the standard app bundles ie. what Google offers + Samsung's version of them + the Facebook app.

Actually don't unless you're on AT&T, the international version won't work with 2/4 US carriers and won't work super well on T-Mobile due to the missing band 71. If you want a clean Galaxy phone in the US get the U build, it's unlocked without any carrier bloat but still supports all bands. Be aware however that it's the red headed step child and is always last to get updates so if fast updates are important look elsewhere.