Samsung’s Galaxy S25 event was an AI presentation with occasional phone hardware
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My S22+ is getting a little long in the tooth, and I've come to really like Samsung's hardware and version of Android, so I'll probably upgrade to one of these at the end of the year when T-Mobile basically gives out free upgrades. Excited to see what the new SoC is capable of as well.
Will I wind up using any of the AI features, probably not intentionally, lol. I certainly am not going to pay a subscription for them. ]
Will I wind up using any of the AI features, probably not intentionally, lol. I certainly am not going to pay a subscription for them. ]
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The explanation for this, that I saw, was that the magnets interfere with the Wacom tech used for S-Pen. If that is the case, placing the magnets in the case makes perfect sense.
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Maybe they should put their efforts into producing a fingerprint sensor that works reliably.
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The Samsung Exynos is reserved for most of the world outside the USA……
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Something I've been strongly considering, though I'm still a couple years away from upgrading my phone.
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I use to get super hyped for new phone upgrades. Now im terribly afraid to give up my ancient S10+ despite all the "improvements" made in smartphones. I will run this phone into the ground until I cant open my bank app anymore.
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What puzzles me about all this is why the hardware OEMs are getting so worked up about it.
Ok, let’s say I am super gung-ho about AI; why do I care what Samsung is doing? Same Qualcomm chip everyone who isn’t Apple will be shipping this year; and it’s not like Samsung is going to be the most competent guy in software.
It’s like watching a PC OEM decide to spend their entire presentation showing off a video game as though it’s totally the reason you would buy a laptop from them. Sure, video games in general might be the reason why I feel the need for a new PC; but I’m not going to buy a dell because they decided to bundle a dell-exclusive shovelware title when there’s an entire market of companies that specialize in that area of software.
Is this just a mobile hellscape the-OEM-locks-it-down-to-keep-competitors-nonviable stuff, and the NPU will only run Samsung-signed payloads or something? Is this just the desperation of someone who would otherwise need to dedicate a press conference to this year’s black slab being slightly faster and somewhat more expensive than last year’s?
Ok, let’s say I am super gung-ho about AI; why do I care what Samsung is doing? Same Qualcomm chip everyone who isn’t Apple will be shipping this year; and it’s not like Samsung is going to be the most competent guy in software.
It’s like watching a PC OEM decide to spend their entire presentation showing off a video game as though it’s totally the reason you would buy a laptop from them. Sure, video games in general might be the reason why I feel the need for a new PC; but I’m not going to buy a dell because they decided to bundle a dell-exclusive shovelware title when there’s an entire market of companies that specialize in that area of software.
Is this just a mobile hellscape the-OEM-locks-it-down-to-keep-competitors-nonviable stuff, and the NPU will only run Samsung-signed payloads or something? Is this just the desperation of someone who would otherwise need to dedicate a press conference to this year’s black slab being slightly faster and somewhat more expensive than last year’s?
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If you got it new at launch, it's free since they literally bump all orders to the 512/12GB ram...
Used market, it's like a extra $50ish on swappa for 256 vs 512 GB... for MASSIVELY faster storage than micro SD cards... as opposed to $15-20 for a decent 256 gb microsd card.
They've done this for 3 generations now on galaxy S ultra line at least... and it's currently $20 to go from 256 GB to 512GB on the S25/S25+.
the performance is different enough that it takes me under 30 seconds to transfer a 5+ gb movie onto/off of my phone vs like 2+ minutes onto a microSD card...
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They downgraded it. No more Bluetooth in the s-pen.
I am a big Samsung fan (not fanboy, I criticize as much as I defend) and as far as I'm concerned this is one of the most boring and tonedeaf to the needs and desires of the customer releases I've ever seen from samsung. Barely changed cameras hardware. Design regression on the ultra. Unchanged design on the base and plus. No battery improvement. No new hardware button. No satellite communication. Downgraded S-pen. The biggest new feature is a samsung version of the old Google Now thing from Android 4.x. The new "edge" model is a total nothing.
Huge disappointment, bordering on comical.
Edit: I missed one major change, I admit. For some reason, there is now a lip on all the cameras, so dust, lint and sand now have an extra bit of space to get stuck in. What is going on? Is this a joke?
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Except Samsung doesn’t currently sell a case that adds the magnets to the case to make it Qi2 compatible. It also doesn’t explain why there’s no Qi2 on the non-S-Pen versions.
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Is possible to make Bixby and Gemini into conversation?
I'm curious, what happen then:
Infinite talk until memory full and crash
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Infinite talk until battery die
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hallucinating like heavy drug users
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They'll destroy each other
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They'll achieve AGI and we're doom.
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They submit the conversations to become a novel that win Hugo Award
I'm curious, what happen then:
Infinite talk until memory full and crash
Or
Infinite talk until battery die
Or
hallucinating like heavy drug users
Or
They'll destroy each other
Or
They'll achieve AGI and we're doom.
Or
They submit the conversations to become a novel that win Hugo Award
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That's brilliant, thanks for sharing. I'm in Australia, will have to dig into the compatibility here. Our Telcos have recently been causing havoc during the 3G shutdown, flagging a wide range of devices as non-compliant with the networks (even when they actually are).
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The hardware OEMs make money from selling new hardware. You don't need new hardware, every phone on the market has been "fast enough" for years. So they have to invent some new nonsense that requires hardware you don't already have, and then try really hard to convince everyone that said nonsense is useful. As for why they're pushing their own AI solution, nobody has really solved the "convince everyone its useful" step yet, so they're deluded into thinking they could be the first.
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After a few generations of making the corners of the display more square in the Ultras, now they are gradually rounding off the corners. Now that is innovation.
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What they really NEED to know is that this kind of shit on a phone will make me go to another phone maker who doesn't do this kind of shit in the first place.
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Does anyone really want a thinner phone than they already are, undoubtedly at the expense of battery life? I personally would prefer a thicker one if it would have a bigger battery.
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That's why I stick with the A-series. I save $800, get no AI garbage, and can put in a 500 GB or 1 TB SD card.
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According to WIRED: "Qi2 Ready cases will be available from Samsung and third parties."
They already announced Qi2 charger for Galaxy S25 (WWA-T420):
The charger was certified by Wireless Power Consortium last week. The charger is not being sold by Samsung yet either. One can expect that the charger and the Qi2 cases will be officially announced at the same time.
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The picture captions seem to be a little off. The caption for the third set of pictures is "Samsung's S25 Plus phones, in silver blue, navy, and icy blue."
However, each of the three phones is a different size, and the left-most one is obviously an Ultra (five lenses).
However, each of the three phones is a different size, and the left-most one is obviously an Ultra (five lenses).
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Give me software updates!
I want the S10 series features (card slot, USB + 3.5mm, full wireless, nice screen) just with updates. I mean, the curved screen is silly, but I have spare screen protectors still. Sony has those features, but has given up on US dedicated models and stocking. Smaller brands have budget-tier devices with those features and not all of those brands sell to the US either.
Is it still difficult to mount (a subset) of an Android phone's filesystem as a R/W drive on a computer? Paying for storage rather than SD cards is $$, but the biggest part is reliably syncing the media in the first place. If that's improved, then it might be easier to maintain my currently-on-microSD collection in my next phone.
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I wonder if the Edge phone started development before or after the iPhone 17 Air rumors...
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Apparently several oems pressured the wireless charging consortium to introduce "qi2 ready" classification, where the device can advertise itself as being fully Qi2 because the device has 25w wireless and official magnetic cases, because putting magnets in a phone is hard I guess? Samsung introduced magnetic cases for the S25 series so...there you go. I believe Oneplus is doing the same. Another disappointment tbh, I want cool magnets on my phone.
Last year was one of the more significant year over year changes for the iPhone base model. We're at the point where Samsung has less year over year changes than apple and if we're being honest, Samsung has been selling almost the same base and plus phones since the S22. Same camera, same screen, same design after the 23, same features, just upgraded guts.
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A few strange errors in the article:
Caption on the S25 Ultras "Samsung's S25 Ultra, in titanium builds colored silver blue, black, gray, and white silver."
That order is wrong. It should be Silver Blue, White Silver, Black, Gray.
Caption on next image "Samsung's S25 Plus phones, in silver blue, navy, and icy blue."
Those are the S25 series phones: S25 Ultra, S25+, and S25 (can't speak for the accuracy of the colours).
Next line "It's much the same with the S25 and S25 Plus".
Is it S25+ or S25 Plus? The inconsistency is odd.
Caption on the S25 Ultras "Samsung's S25 Ultra, in titanium builds colored silver blue, black, gray, and white silver."
That order is wrong. It should be Silver Blue, White Silver, Black, Gray.
Caption on next image "Samsung's S25 Plus phones, in silver blue, navy, and icy blue."
Those are the S25 series phones: S25 Ultra, S25+, and S25 (can't speak for the accuracy of the colours).
Next line "It's much the same with the S25 and S25 Plus".
Is it S25+ or S25 Plus? The inconsistency is odd.
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I kinda wanted an Ultra for the stylus, plus Auracast. AI has no place in there; I suppose some sort of audio-scrubbing AI, but that doesn't seem to be one of the use cases.
I guess I'd be good if I weren't sure if I was scrambling my breakfast eggs right, though.
But at whatever it was ($1,300?), nah. I'll get another Pixel (mine's the last generation without Auracast), slap Graphene or something on it, and continue carrying notepads or pieces of papers and a pen.
I guess I'd be good if I weren't sure if I was scrambling my breakfast eggs right, though.
But at whatever it was ($1,300?), nah. I'll get another Pixel (mine's the last generation without Auracast), slap Graphene or something on it, and continue carrying notepads or pieces of papers and a pen.
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Man... please don't buy a overpriced samsung "official" case... just get one of the any number of magnetized cases on amazon or any of the bigger phone case companies..
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But, but, it has all the AIs you could ever want - from Samsung, from Google, and OpenAI
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Same old cameras, same old 256gb max storage on the base model, price increase, hard pass Samsung. Nothing new except the soc and some extra memory that you took away after the s20.
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I think part of the problem is that the whole S22 line is in lower demand to this day because of SD 8 Gen 1 chipset concerns. That would be worse battery life and overall battery lifespan compared to what came just before and just after it.
Even the casual consumer googling the S22 is probably going to come across that, no matter the degree to which the issue gets overblown.
I would be surprised if Samsung didn't take resale-ability into account somewhat, even when it comes to their own phones.
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I'm loving how ai art is becoming so recognizable as a cheap low effort gimmick.
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I briefly considered it, but my S21 Ultra is still running strong with the battery sometimes lasting 2 days and, best of all, it doesn't have any AI crap.
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First they came for the headphone jacks and no one cared
Then they came for the micro SD cards and no one cared
Now they came for bluetooth and no one will care
Then they will come for <your favorite feature> and all that will be left is AI
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The A series does not have flagship level processor, RAM or cameras. Doesn't support USB 3.0 It doesn't have Dex either. I'd rather stick to the S20
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