Oracle is mum on reports it has experienced 2 separate data breaches
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I knew Oracle let their lawyers handle sales and marketing; looks like the do security and incident response as well.
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I can only assume this makes more sense in light of the fact that Larry got his start(and the company name) working on 'Project Oracle' for the CIA.
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These "fee for thee, free for me," "we want all your data", security secondary, line-go-up, we support right wing authoritarian wannabe, tech-bro pinwheel fucks are going to sink us. They need the equivalent of an electric shock collar permanently affixed to their businesses and executives.
I can't believe that we, as a society, continue to let them rake us over the coals and through the ringer and then let them rummage and pilfer for any remaining change in our pockets. It's just astounding.
They walk away laughing.
They get appointed to weird DOdGEy government agencies.
They wreck everything.
They steal everything.
Then they tell us, "pay up and shut up."
Jesus. It just won't stop.
I can't believe that we, as a society, continue to let them rake us over the coals and through the ringer and then let them rummage and pilfer for any remaining change in our pockets. It's just astounding.
They walk away laughing.
They get appointed to weird DOdGEy government agencies.
They wreck everything.
They steal everything.
Then they tell us, "pay up and shut up."
Jesus. It just won't stop.
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They were probably wanting to say something off the record.
Here's something ON the record: I keep getting these ads and emails for Oracle Cloud and I hate it
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Is there no requirement at all for American companies to be honest about anything?
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There are no meaningful laws nor the will to enforce such laws to deter the misuse of data.
The United States could have passed a robust bill of digital rights that would criminalize such negligent or willful misuse of PII and other data - but the best they could do was vote a racist ban Tiktok bill. If its a concern for TikTok to be doing it - it should be a concern for American entities to be doing it as well.
DOGE will help out by firing everyone that could possibly investigate or hold Oracle accountable. All it takes is buying some Tesla or Starlink shares or a direct donation to Elon or Donald to help make this go away.
The United States could have passed a robust bill of digital rights that would criminalize such negligent or willful misuse of PII and other data - but the best they could do was vote a racist ban Tiktok bill. If its a concern for TikTok to be doing it - it should be a concern for American entities to be doing it as well.
DOGE will help out by firing everyone that could possibly investigate or hold Oracle accountable. All it takes is buying some Tesla or Starlink shares or a direct donation to Elon or Donald to help make this go away.
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If clouds orders of magnitude bigger like Amazon and Microsoft with huge multitudes of other online service experience struggle to keep everything secure then what hope did customers think Oracle, a company with few other live services, had of maintaining security beyond hopeful obscurity?
Oracle is and has long been a leech sucking off the teat of whatever trend they can hop onto with a cut rate product
Oracle is and has long been a leech sucking off the teat of whatever trend they can hop onto with a cut rate product
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It's worth knowing that Oracle was running a vulnerable version of Oracle Fusion Middleware, their own software, in the Oracle Cloud stack as of Feb. 17, 2025. The attacker said was leveraged in the recent breach of Oracle Cloud (source: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...data-stolen-in-alleged-cloud-breach-is-valid/).
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Yeah, I’m not sure why anyone is surprised. They don’t do technology. They do licensing and lawyers.
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Just an added bit of information: Prior to being absorbed into Oracle in 2022, Oracle Health was known as Cerner, and it's likely most patients and providers who use or work at facilities with their EMR know it as such. (Yes, that's the same Cerner infamous for the "You have two weeks. Tick, tock." email of 2001.)
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Remember the old tech industry proverb; Oracle doesn't have customers, they have hostages. So why any corporation would voluntarily rely on them for cloud services is beyond me.
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Impossible. Oracle cloud has never suffered an outage or incident in its history
https://ocistatus.oraclecloud.com/#/history
Narrator: That was a lie
Edit: It seems they did post status early last year. But having lived through about 30 incidents with OCI this year alone that page should have more text than the webster dictionary.
https://ocistatus.oraclecloud.com/#/history
Narrator: That was a lie
Edit: It seems they did post status early last year. But having lived through about 30 incidents with OCI this year alone that page should have more text than the webster dictionary.
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Allegations were also made by the hacker that Oracle was trying to contact them via protonmail rather than official company email. Probably to avoid discovery.
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I'm sure that's what they meant, but they went about it with the subtlety of a chimpanzee. It is, theoretically, that person's job to know how to phrase such things properly when talking with journalists. By bungling it so badly they make Oracle look (extra) terrible.
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When my company reached out to our Oracle rep earlier this week they stated "its a hoax"
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Of course they did. I sure love the complete normalization of Trump’s America.
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Yeap, Oracle. Not even once. 95% of people who think they need an Oracle product actually do not and could easily get by with something waaay cheaper. They're purely coasting on C-suite FOMO for most of their clients in my opinion.
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I see they only do things starting with "L"
That explains others comments I closing 'leeching'.
Lets see what else..
Loathsome - check
Lame - check
Loony - probably
Larceny - probably
I'm people have plenty more...
Maybe we should call them L'oracle
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In late 2019 / early 2020 there were a whole lot of coincidental signals that Oracle was popped similar to Solar Winds, and they did exactly nothing to provide assurance otherwise. Really MS was the only ones that talked about investigating themselves, though Google and Amazon at least bothered to put out some hand wavy statements - Oracle did fuck all even though they were a big SolarWinds customer, that a Java repl based dropper was discovered very similar in technique to the Roslyn repl script that modified Orion, etc.
There is very little chance they will speak openly about a breach
There is very little chance they will speak openly about a breach
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That's very disheartening (yes, another day ending in 'y'). Cerner was an OK EHR. For limited values of OK but we're grading on a scale.
arg.
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One new CEO at a company I worked for did something similar: the parking lot not being full enough to his liking had him eliminate flexible working hours and remote work completely.
About 80% of the devs on the main product line (guess which ones) headed for the exits within a few weeks, and the entire software division essentially died. I think the husk got sold off and is in maintenance mode somewhere now.
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Why should they? Ellison is friends with Trump and higher ups of the GOP . Literally just had Nikola CEO pardoned, there is no benefit or need for him to even put on a show of caring.
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It was an absolute shambles of a purchase.
Ellison had wanted to buy Cerner for some time. When he finally gave Cerner an offer, Neal thought Larry was lowballing him and binned the deal. Before his death, Neal was trying to work something out with Amazon, but passed away before much was done. Brent Shafer (a GE and HP alum) took over and proceeded to run the company in a manner that inside and outside observers thought was incomprehensibly stupid.
Instead of heavily investing in Millenium (which needed an immediate and major overhaul) and properly training consultants, Brent blew up the number of VPs, kowtowed to a minor hedge fund (Starboard), and began a plan of unneeded austerity by halting bonuses, raises, promotions, and benefits for regular employees. Hiring also became glacial. After years of attrition, Cerner lost a good deal of very talented developers and consultants who understood the needs of a complex industry.
But, Cerner was smaller now and Larry finally got what he had wanted after twenty years.
After Oracle took over there were even more layoffs in a manner I was told was contemptous and cruel. There were already fires burning with dissappointed clients and these quickly became unmanageable.
I've seen a few pieces talking about how Oracle heroically tried to salvage the software for clients (in particular the VA) and tried placing the blame on inarticulate, state school graduates from the Midwest. Anyone with industry experience knew this was a self inflicted shot to the heart, with Larry and Brent holding the trigger. I am surprised that it took this long for something like this to happen, to be honest.
One bright side is that Seema Verma, who tried to trash the ACA and was instrumental in the bungled pandemic response with her incomprehensibly petty feud with the HHS secretary, has landed on her feet. I'm sure Larry sees a little of himself in her.
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Does anyone remember when Ellison was boasting about his cloud offering as unique because of its high security? Does anyone remember "Unbreakable Linux" (now Oracle Linux)?
Oracle is a company that boasts more than it can chew. I despise them for their arrogance. What else can you expect from Allison? Remember the difference between Allison and God joke? Still pertinent.
Oracle is a company that boasts more than it can chew. I despise them for their arrogance. What else can you expect from Allison? Remember the difference between Allison and God joke? Still pertinent.
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