Movie industry loves bill that would force ISPs to block piracy websites

shodanbo

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"Rather than attacking the problem at its source—bringing the people running overseas piracy websites to court—"

Give me a break.
A plucky band of misfits gets recruited by the secret quasi-governmental Section 4178 to find and exfiltrate oversees copyright violators.

Moderately popular C level streaming series for Netflix gets 2 seasons then canceled.

Quickly pirated through the analog hole and enjoyed by people all over the world running oversees piracy websites.
 
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sword_9mm

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"US Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) today didn't notice that they have actual important work to do, but instead proposed some crap that won't work, and even if it did, would only benefit rich corporations at the expense of average citizens."

Democrats and Republicans always agree to help the rich above all others.

The Democrats just allow scraps to fall to the proletariat whereas the Republicans just keep all the spoils at the top.
 
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All this fuss over piracy. Did or did not we see Netflix become a multi billion dollar company competing directly with online piracy during the (arguable) golden age of internet piracy? Record box office revenues over the last 2 decades... in spite of piracy. All media doing very well in fact... but piracy is doing "harm" somehow. The kind of harm that makes people billionaires and still convinced they are hard done by.

This is proof NOTHING will ever be enough for these people.
 
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adamsc

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In other news, VPNs are a thing. But keep chasing that dragon, MPAA and RIAA! I'm absolutely convinced their lawyers just want job security. They know this will go nowhere

A lot of people want this to be true but it’s only true to the extent that people contact their representatives and fight to keep it true. VPNs are easy to identify and block – yes, even the ones whose marketing falsely claims otherwise – so consider that they’re going to join forces with the significant and growing fraction of the country pushing age verification laws and support a ban on VPNs which don’t restrict access. Repressive governments love being able to control what their citizens see and the big ISPs are keen on not having network neutrality so they have plenty of leverage, and most of those companies made so much money selling user data that they’d be happy to see VPN usage decline again.
 
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LostFate

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Oh hey, Ars MAGA site trying to badmouth Democrats again. This is about intellectual property, but you Trumpers of course would spin it as censorship.
Umm?

We don't provide cover for bad actors. I'm way left of anyone in Congress (save maybe Bernie) and this move by this person is bad all the way around.
 
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If any national Dems are listening. THIS IS ONE of the reasons you don't get votes. If I wanted GOP-Lite I'd just vote for the GOP.
I'm sure Netflix etc are loving this. Pass this bill. Start enforcing it and then get rid of the 'cancel anytime' clause and boom, it's early retirement for VPs all over!
I am pretty sure we have a Uni-party with the exception of a handful of people to the farther right and a handful of people to the farther left. In the USA, well moneyed interests tend to win regardless of party, and both parties like to blame the other one for all ills.
 
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If the Internet was around when constitution was made it would be something similar to the 2nd amendment. The Dems doing the same thing for gun Control. They say they will only go after bad actors...when in reality we have red flag laws that violate freedoms people should have. You can't pick and choose these things. The Internet is open and free or it's not....
 
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TheGreenMonkey

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This is a first step to eliminating VPNs as well. Once they become the de facto standard for accessing pirated content, they will be next on the chopping block. Not that anyone here would access pirated content.

Seriously copyright needs to be rethought and the nearly unlimited retainer it enjoys should be brought back down to its initial levels, with a single renewal for half that time. Copyright has long been abused to stifle creating new content, and has only lead to repetitive releases of what is effectively the same story in just about every medium. Especially the film industry.
 
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tricro

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This would be another step towards the GREAT "AMERICAN" Firewall.

I would expect this step from the current administration, not so much from their opposition. I'm almost a bit confused when we (the USA) became so short-sighted as a nation. That's right up until I think about our education system and some of the products of that system sitting in the seats representing us.
 
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L0neW0lf

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How about the Democrats actually team up with an industry that understands the average-to-less than voter and the stay-home-do-nothing person to actually learn how to speak to them and get votes, and get things done without disconnect, discombobulation, and infighting?

Because that's what I'd like to see at the Federal level.
 
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Voytrekk

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I haven't downloaded a single torrent in my life, but I thought piracy was passe with most content readily available for streaming. Laziness always wins, and legally available content seems easier.

It's much trickier with content they refuse to make available. For example, there's no legal way to watch My Name Is Earl in Europe.
It used to be easier, then all of the companies decided they wanted a piece of the pie and split all of the content among a bunch of different services. Now you have to find out which service has the movie or show you want to watch and hopefully it's something you are already subscribed to. With piracy, you just go to one place and you can get whatever you want for free.
 
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Psyborgue

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Oh hey, Ars MAGA site trying to badmouth Democrats again. This is about intellectual property, but you Trumpers of course would spin it as censorship.
Ars is tankie if anything. Democrats are too far to the right. Like, I vote Democrat. I also hate the Democrats and shit all over them now that the election is over.

Next election comes I will hold my tongue and pretend in “hope” and “change” or whatever pointless turds they’re shoveling while they lick corporate ass.
 
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On some level it may temporarily block a site like redacted.sh. Most private trackers don't let you browse using a VPN. After a day or two they'll update their rules and let you use a VPN. People will switch to encrypted DNS which has an exemption (if you haven't already that is). Proxy servers will pop up like they do for Pirate Bay. The amount of exceptions make this laughable. But even without those it won't be effective.
 
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candyfire

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Oh hey, Ars MAGA site trying to badmouth Democrats again. This is about intellectual property, but you Trumpers of course would spin it as censorship.
Democrats can't win elections and should be badmouthed until they start doing things that might actually get people to the polls
 
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Meridian Array

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Piracy was, is, and always will be a service problem. People pirate movies because simply buying them and watching them is really inconvenient.

You have DRM-laden disc players, DRM-laden display output standards, DRM-laden streaming platforms, ad-infested streaming platforms for which you pay, and they keep finding ways to make it more expensive, such as by, you guessed it, charging for an ad-free experience—which they next ruin by adding ads again as the greedy grabby hand ever reaches for more.

This is deliberate malice with a wafer-thin veneer over the lobbying.
 
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jezra

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I wish these lawmakers would fight for important things, like maybe privacy rights for US citizens, instead of wasting their seats fighting for unenforceable laws to protect Hollywood interests. Then Democrats wonder why normal citizens have lost faith in them.
They fight for what their sponsors tell them to fight for; if the voters don't like it, the voters should stop supporting corporate sponsored shills.
 
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jezra

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Oh hey, Ars MAGA site trying to badmouth Democrats again. This is about intellectual property, but you Trumpers of course would spin it as censorship.
being left of the Center-Right corporate sponsored party doesn't make one a supporter of the Far-Right corporate sponsored party.
 
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johnnoi

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So VPNs are exempt (which is the smart/safe way to torrent…) as are DNS over TLS/HTTPS services.

The safety-minded pirate will not be affected whatsoever. It will be the rest of society that suffers from corporate-directed censorship.
Anybody using Firefox has DoH already turned on.
 
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