Sooo...QT and AVI suck?(I agree,Scott)<P>Best format for streaming video would then be...what?<P>How does ATM fit into any of this?<P>signed,<BR>baffled by the complexity of it all.(temporarily anyway) View image: /infopop/emoticons\icon_redface.gif
More Microsoft "innovation"?
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'm tired as hell of having a PC that crashed critically on me six times the last year, using bloody M$ mail apps that deletes my mail due to unaknowledged bugs and still having MS pushing their bloatware down our throats, by removing our right to choose.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>So, you still haven't figured out how to use a PC properly yet, huh? Man, my sister with no assistance has kept hers up longer and that, and that PC isn't even from a big OEM, and she doesn't know jack about computers. Every try PCs for dummies? Man, I had to be your computer if it crashes so frequently. You mustn't really know much about supporting PCs. Otherwise, you'd rememdy the problem and move on. <P><em>Yeah, my Ford really sucks because like, if I don't put oil in it and stuff, and like get new tires when they are flat and stuff, it like, breaks and stuff, like. </em> View image: /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<P>
And the Hand of Caesar sweeps down in its mighty glory to put the insolent in their places...
To respond to someones earlier post, Apple bought the initial program that became iMovie and Final Cut Pro from Macromedia, if I remember correctly.<BR> As for the brushed look of the apps that are starting to grace the MacOS, well, it sucks. One of the hallmarks of the MacOS, whether you like it or not, is consistency of interface across the whole OS. This is as important in computer software as it is in Graphic Design and Architecture. People are easier able to understand how something works when the same scheme is used across a particular medium. <BR> To comment on QT 4 and Microsoft's Media Player, well, they both seem to put out about the same amount of quality. As one of the aforementioned seems to come on 90% of the markets computers without need of a download--well, do I need to say more?
"So, you still haven't figured out how to use a PC properly yet, huh? Man, my sister with no assistance has kept hers up longer and that, and that PC isn't even from a big OEM, and she doesn't know jack about computers. Every try PCs for dummies? Man, I had to be your computer if it crashes so frequently. You mustn't really know much about supporting PCs. Otherwise, you'd rememdy the problem and move on."<P>AH, SO IT'S THE USER'S FAULT, eh? Extension of the MS line of reasoning "MS products doesn't contain bugs".<P>So, it's my fault that my PC in mid-operation says, "sorry, no CD-drive attached to this computer", even though it worked minutes before?<P>And it's my moms fault that her entire chain of PC's a work (she's a doctor) crashed yesterday on windows login?<P>Damn, you're pathetic.<P>*<P>Venture:<P>"Don't use a Mac then."<P>What a lowly attempt at sarcasm.<P>"The one I had to use at my last job didn't, IIRC, crash on me six times in one day - I think the record was five - but I can't recall a time in three years when it went six days without a crash."<P>The Mac isn't perfect. Ever given a thought to what the problem might be (please, no "apple sux" kinda answers)?<P>[This message has been edited by DJ Supreme (edited December 11, 1999).]<P>[This message has been edited by DJ Supreme (edited December 11, 1999).]
"dj - i think rhino was merely making light of your eagerness for the for government to step in and crush microsoft. this eagerness is ignorance is what i believe rhino's point is. you can cheer all you want for the government, but ultimately, the governement meddling in the computer industry is bad. if you think the only repurcussions (and potential repurcussions) of the government trying to control the computing industry is the breakup of microsoft, then you're sadly mistaken."<P>I'm not cheering, but I believe this is a necessary step.<P>BTW, you're forgetting, that if MS really weren't as bad as they are, they'd win the case in no time. But it isn't happening!<P>The conclusion is obvious.
"BTW, you're forgetting, that if MS really weren't as bad as they are, they'd win the case in no time. But it isn't happening!"<P>If they didn't do anything wrong they'd win in no time? Where have you been the last 20 years? If public opinion is against you, you're fucked, regardless of whether or not you did anything wrong. Remeber what Guliani did with Title IX RICO? ugh. <P>If nothing else, the incompetence of MS's lawyers will end up killing them. <P>"This is a disaster, lawyers watching this case are aghast. This case will be taught at law schools for years to come as an example of how not to conduct a trial." -- Dershowitz
But seriously DJ, give it up on the FUD and utter propaganda regarding the stability of Windows 98. If you're having problems like you describe it's your hardware. I started in when 3.0 was hot baby and I can finally say that Windows is a solid system. <BR> By the way, I'm posting this from my Be system so don't bother calling me a MS whore. <BR>/Damn, where's that AutoComplete...../<BR>OK, have a nice weekend.
From DJ:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>AH, SO IT'S THE USER'S FAULT, eh? Extension of the MS line of reasoning "MS products doesn't contain bugs".<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No one here (especially Windows users)has claimed that MS software is bug-free. However, it's too often that anti-MS people foist that line on others when it suits them. Stop being a lemming. We don't know anything about your computer, and far too often the user has done things to the computer to make it unstable.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So, it's my fault that my PC in mid-operation says, "sorry, no CD-drive attached to this computer", even though it worked minutes before?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No, that specific instance (to me) sounds like a hardware problem. But that doesn't mean the problem is fault of MS, as you seem so quick to assume and blame. Perhaps if you gave us a description of your hardware and the problems you've encountered, we could provide some assistance. That's one of the reasons we're here.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And it's my moms fault that her entire chain of PC's a work (she's a doctor) crashed yesterday on windows login?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No, but you're gonna have to provide more than a one-line anecdote to prove there's a problem. A statement like this, with no other info or background, will often be passed off as ludicrous. Has her IT people investigated the problem?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Damn, you're pathetic.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Et tu, Brute?
And I can think of a few legal cases that didn't turn out the way everyone thought they should have. I mean obviously if OJ was really guilty he would have been found guilty. Come on, don't you watch the news?
DJ-<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So, it's my fault that my PC in mid-operation says, "sorry, no CD-drive attached to this computer", even though it worked minutes before?<P>And it's my moms fault that her entire chain of PC's a work (she's a doctor) crashed yesterday on windows login?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yeah, it probably is. <P>But I don't think anyone here is claiming that Win98/NT is bug free. Nonetheless, the problems you describe should not arise simply from use. As I understand it, they are usually the product of using hardware/drivers not on the HCL. <P>So I'll see your anecdote, and raise you one. I don't experience any of the problems you describe, and Win98 on my system is quite stable.<P>Oh, and like Dan, I should probably note that I use Linux and Be as well. I enjoy a variety of operating systems.<P>Regardless, the problems you have with Windows do not justify your belligerence. A part of me hopes Caesar flames the hell out of you.<P>[Edit-- Arg. AGB beat me to the punch on most of these points.]<BR><P>[This message has been edited by underthumb (edited December 11, 1999).]
Easy Rhino<BR>Quote:<BR>"And I can think of a few legal cases that didn't turn out the way everyone thought they should have. I mean obviously if OJ was really guilty he would have been found guilty. Come on, don't you watch the news?"<P>Man, that's for sure. Yet another example of our "superior" judicial system in practice.
I'm finished here...<P>You people have a nice Cristmas, yo hear?<P>"Or else I'm gonna call up a couple of pipe-hittin' niggers.."<P><BR> View image: /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I'd just like to reiterate that brushed aluminium sucks donkey balls, over.<P><small>I think I'll go delete all references to brushed aluminum from my linux/98 laptop.</small><P>Proprietary video formats are whack, no matter how good they are. Matter of fact, pretty much anything proprietary sucks chunks. (I'm not saying everything should be open source, but why try to invent a new standard when there's one that's perfectly functional as is?) MPEG. Screw you and your bandwidth, it'll go up relatively soon.
>> "The one I had to use at my last job didn't, IIRC, crash on me six times in one day - I think the record was five - but I can't recall a time in three years when it went six days without a crash."<P>"The Mac isn't perfect. Ever given a thought to what the problem might be (please, no "apple sux" kinda answers)?"<P>I hope this isn't an "Apple sux" answer.<P>I went over all the settings.<P>I ran Norton.<P>I monitored the circumstances each time it crashed to see if there was some pattern (there wasn't).<P>Armed with the variety of error messages I was given, I headed to the computer bookstore, where I spent many a fruitless hour checking out "Sad Macs, Bombs, and other Disasters."<P>Mentioned it a mainly-Mac bulletin board, where I got plenty of responses saying it was my fault, and a few folks genuinely offering advice, which I followed to no avail.<P>Reinstalled the aps and the OS.<P>Upgraded the OS when new ones became available.<P>Called in the Comp Sci graduates from Engineering, including two who write for the Mac, one of which is an Apple Certified Developer. They spent a day and a half in total trying to fix it, with no improvement.<P>Gave up and accepted it.<P>I guess I finally understood the Mac user psyche when I stuck my head in the Creative Director's door when he'd just got a new Blue and White G3. He'd started off installing his applications with Photoshop, and had just begun the Illustator install when the Mac crashed.<P>And, trooper that he was, he just started over. Had that been a Dell I would have been on the phone for a tech to be on-site *now,* preferably to take the heap of junk away and replace it with something more reliable.<P>Incidentally, that company bought two iMacs for QA. They were both identically configured, and one was pretty solid while the other crashed over and over.<P>
For the last time... (<B>PeterB</B>- I've seen you bitch about this before and I'm pretty sure someone pointed you in the right direction then. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt - maybe you missed the reply.)<P>You can get a stand alone installer for QuickTime that does <B>not</B> require an internet connection. I've used it a number of times to put it on non-networked machines.<P>Go here:<BR> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/support/ <P>A quote from the above web page:<BR><blockquote>"<I>This stand-alone QuickTime 4 installer does not require a Internet connection during initial installation. To update QuickTime to a future version, you can run the QuickTime Updater on the Internet or download a future version of this stand-alone installer.</I>"</blockquote><P>There are standalone installers for Win & Mac.
Apple still owes me money for diagnosing the lockup bug in QT on multiprocessor machines...
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