If you can see the Big Dipper, you’ll get to see a star go nova soon

mgmcd1

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White dwarves are still considered stars, just post-main-sequence, and they emit energy as black body radation due to their extreme residual heat. There's also T Tauri stars, which are pre-sequence and the energy they emit is from gravitational collapse, as they're not dense enough yet to initiate fusion.
All stars are black body radiators. Well, at least our active Sun is.
 
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jandrese

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Aren't all stars, by definition, always going thermonuclear?
According to the article the star is a white dwarf so normally it doesn't fuse hydrogen since it ran out eons ago. It's just this one has a doner star that slowly re-fuels it enough for a couple of days of fusion every 80 years or so.
 
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The white dwarf stage is normally a super peaceful retirement period for stars. ... But the retirement of the white dwarf in T. Coronae Borealis is hardly peaceful, as it has a neighbor prone to littering. ... The material that is coming off the red giant is now falling onto the white dwarf,” Van Belle said. ... “That is what causes the explosion,” Van Belle said.

I'm getting old man "Damn kids quit littering on my lawn!!!" vibes.
 
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Aren't all stars, by definition, always going thermonuclear?
Even for the ones that are actively fusing, is it correct to call it thermonuclear? As I understand the fusion happens not from heat but actually quantum tunneling due to the extreme gravity.

Or is that only for some kinds of stars? Do others fuse because of heat or is it always quantum tunneling? Or am I interpreting "thermonuclear" too literally?

Starstuff beings that know more about star stuff than me, how's this all work?
 
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Even for the ones that are actively fusing, is it correct to call it thermonuclear? As I understand the fusion happens not from heat but actually quantum tunneling due to the extreme gravity.

Or is that only for some kinds of stars? Do others fuse because of heat or is it always quantum tunneling? Or am I interpreting "thermonuclear" too literally?

Starstuff beings that know more about star stuff than me, how's this all work?
Normal stars burn fuel continuously and regulated in a stable way, like a fusion reactor. While this is a hydrogen fusion explosion aka thermonuclear bomb, which is what they meant with thermonuclear.
 
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aaki

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I'm certainly looking forward to seeing this. The only thing I regret is I don't have a telescope to look at it through.
you don't really need it for this, it should be naked eye visible. Its not much to look at though, there will simply be a seemingly normal, additional star visible in the Northern Crown that wasn't there before.

I think to experience it to any extent, you should just find and get some memory of the Northern Crown's appearance now, before it appears, so that you can get that "oh, look this wasn't there before" impression when it happens.
 
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you don't really need it for this, it should be naked eye visible. Its not much to look at though, there will simply be a seemingly normal, additional star visible in the Northern Crown that wasn't there before.

I think to experience it to any extent, you should just find and get some memory of the Northern Crown's appearance now, before it appears, so that you can get that "oh, look this wasn't there before" impression when it happens.
Thanks! Does that include looking with a pair of binoculars? And how long will the "extra" star be there.. do we have a day or two to get our butts to a good observation point once it goes nova?
 
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andit

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the time aspects of astronomic events always intrigues and amazes me.
T. Coronae Borealis is ~2600 light years away, so the event happened long before we switch to AD calendars and we are simply waiting for the light evidence to arrive. And by the time it arrives, ~32 nova events will have already happened, we are just waiting for the results to come in.
My mind struggles with these enormities of scale.
 
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To the more knowledgeable astronomers here.. am I right that this will be a type Ia supernova, so we have a chance to observe a type of standard candle with our own eyes?
No it won't be. This is only a nova, nothing super about it. This means the white dwarf will survive the explosion while a 1a supernovae would disrupt the entire star.

A 1a supernovae would require you to ignite the carbon deep inside the white dwarf and have that start burning explosively. This nova will only burn the outer layers of hydrogen without igniting the carbon at the center.
 
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TheHokieCoder

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the time aspects of astronomic events always intrigues and amazes me.
T. Coronae Borealis is ~2600 light years away, so the event happened long before we switch to AD calendars and we are simply waiting for the light evidence to arrive. And by the time it arrives, ~32 nova events will have already happened, we are just waiting for the results to come in.
My mind struggles with these enormities of scale.
This is an interesting factoid. Thanks for sharing!

Does anyone know if there is a service similar to SpotTheStation that would send a text or email when professionals/scientists notice when the event happens so I can know to go out and look? I guess, at the very least, Ars will post a new article?
 
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TheAxMan

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No it won't be. This is only a nova, nothing super about it. This means the white dwarf will survive the explosion while a 1a supernovae would disrupt the entire star.

A 1a supernovae would require you to ignite the carbon deep inside the white dwarf and have that start burning explosively. This nova will only burn the outer layers of hydrogen without igniting the carbon at the center.
Ah, I see the article also mentions this though I didn't pick up on it:

"The explosion is a nova, which means it doesn’t kill either the white dwarf or the red giant as a supernova would. “Only about 5 percent of the hydrogen layer fuses into heavier elements like helium, and the rest just gets ejected into space. Then the process starts all over again because the explosion isn’t large enough to disrupt the red giant, the donor of all this hydrogen, so it just keeps doing its thing,” Van Belle told Ars. This is why we can predict this event with such precision."
 
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A small star map would have been a great addition to the article.

In the Daily Telescope articles, @EllPeaTea is renowned for providing little maps. But I think they're in Europe and in the evening hours now, so might not have seen the article.

Here's the raw map that EllPeaTea would base theirs off:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Corona_Borealis_IAU.svg
And here's a good article from Astronomy.com that provides several good maps. The map with T CrB specifically pinpointed is at the bottom. It's rather hard to see the green dot they placed, Follow the line of the last 3 stars in the constellation as a pointer.

https://www.astronomy.com/observing...orealis-the-brightest-nova-of-the-generation/
 
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fenncruz

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Ah, I see the article also mentions this though I didn't pick up on it:

"The explosion is a nova, which means it doesn’t kill either the white dwarf or the red giant as a supernova would. “Only about 5 percent of the hydrogen layer fuses into heavier elements like helium, and the rest just gets ejected into space. Then the process starts all over again because the explosion isn’t large enough to disrupt the red giant, the donor of all this hydrogen, so it just keeps doing its thing,” Van Belle told Ars. This is why we can predict this event with such precision."
There are interesting questions about whether novae phases of a white dwarf life is needed as a step towards a 1a supernovae. To make a 1a supernovae you need to push a white dwarf above 1.4 times the mass of the Sun. You could do that either by acceating material from a companion, like this system, but then you have novae explosions, like this system, blowing most/all that accreted material off the white dwarf so it might grow in mass very slowly. The other way is to start with two white dwarfs and smash them together, but then you have issues with how many double white dwarf systems we expect to merge. There's a enough diversity in 1a explosions that's it's probable we need abit of both types, plus maybe other more unusual mechanisms for certain sub types of 1a supernovae.
 
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tgm4

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I take it this won't be visible in the Southern Hemisphere?
T. Coronae Borealis is at about declination 26 degrees north (26 degrees north of the celestial equator). So, not counting a bit of refraction at the horizon, it would just clear the northern horizon from 64 degrees south latitude at it's highest, with a degree higher for every degree further north in latitude. So should be visible from most of the Southern Hemisphere. I know I can clearly see objects at declination 26 degrees south from my location at 30 degrees north latitude.
 
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