Existing Hyundai EV owners will just need their VIN to claim their free adapter.
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Hyundai’s NACS adapter for EVs will be free to all existing owners
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Such a compelling looking car (the Ioniq 5) and such a miserable attempted purchase experience from the Hyundai dealerships in my urban area.
Pick every single auto dealership stereotype, and turn it to 11.
But congrats to Hyundai for doing the right thing with regards the adapter.
Pick every single auto dealership stereotype, and turn it to 11.
But congrats to Hyundai for doing the right thing with regards the adapter.
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Very nice, and sooner than I expected. I don't anticipate using Tesla Superchargers any time soon, and I don't have any other NACS chargers around me (except maybe Revel), but if the adapter is going to be free, I might as well order one for my Hyundai Kona EV.
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Will they include adapters with the new car so they can use CCS chargers and won’t be stuck with just Tesla chargers until 3rd party chargers start to switch over?
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Yes, they include a CCS and a J1772 adapter in cars that have a native NACS port (currently only the US-built 2025 Ioniq 5.)
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I bought my Ioniq 5 last summer and the dealer tried to upsell me on catalytic converter etching.
The stealerships are just the worst.
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As a new Ioniq 6 owner (looks much nicer in my garage than my Model 3 did), this is great news. I probably won’t be using it very often, but I’d rather have one than not.
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The newer V4 superchargers all have longer cables, so this will be less of an issue moving forward.
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This summer I really wanted to buy an Ioniq 6. Loved everything about it. But the dealerships. OMG. Worst ever. Ended up buying a BMW i4 and I'm loving it.
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Hate the idea of giving more money to Tesla, but it does make using my Ioniq in more rural areas much easier. Would charging the Ioniq work at all Tesla chargers, or just certain ones?
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Not all yet but a lot: some 15000 out of 27000 plugs as of today.
https://www.tesla.com/NACS
EDIT: The direct link doesn't seem to activate the filter but Tesla's map allows you to filter for NACS compatible chargers.
https://www.tesla.com/findus
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Nice, that gives you a lot of options. We are going to have J1772 for like a couple decades with how many of those there are.
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The chargers show up in the app but aren't enabled for use yet, except on the 2025 Ioniq 5 and 5N. All other Hyundai EVs are unable to charge on anything but Magic Dock Superchargers. Access is supposedly coming Q1 2025, but at least for Kia that date got pushed back - was originally supposed to be Jan 15th.
Also note that because the voltage on superchargers is lower than the 800V E-GMP battery in Hyundai/Kia cars, maximum charging speed is only about 100kW. This means it takes about 35 minutes to go 10-80% compared to about 20 minutes on other DC fast charge networks like Electrify America. Tesla is increasing supercharger voltage with their V4 charger hardware, but none of those exist in the wild yet.
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I recently leased a 2025 Ioniq 5 and immediately took it on a 5-6 hour road trip to Crested Butte Colorado. I used a combination of nacs and ccs1 chargers (ChargePoint and Tesla) without any real issues. One charge at a supercharger took an unplug and restart, but otherwise I was very happy. My biggest complaint with the car so far was it takes a touch or two to show the predicted battery% at the next stop, but I’ve found I tend to do better with efficiency than it planned anyways.
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I bought an Ioniq 5 a couple weeks ago, but I’m in Canada. They announced the free NACS for the U.S. months ago, but there’s been no news for other countries.
Does “all existing owners” mean “all American owners”, or “all existing owners”?
Does “all existing owners” mean “all American owners”, or “all existing owners”?
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Gotta figure electric cars will be made illegal by executive order soon enough.
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According to some of the EV car reviewers, they didn't relocate the port on the 2025 i5 because of cost reasons. It would have required new sheet metal stampings and a non-trivial amount of engineering which wasn't feasible since the car is due for a complete redesign in a few years. Kia did actually relocate the port on the 2025 NACS EV6 as their port is located in a plastic molding. Better solution is just for Tesla to make the Supercharger cables longer - something they're already doing in their new stations.
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Yup. A month ago I got offered “free oil changes for 5 years”.
They couldn’t even be bothered to say “for life”?
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I'm so confused by what "catalytic converter etching" would be, especially on a car that I don't think would even have a catalytic converter?
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My understanding is that even my Ioniq "Classic" hatchback will qualify for a free adapter. I won't be giving my money to Swasticar, Inc. except in an emergency, but it will be good to have an adapter as I assume that other networks will be switching from CCS to NACS over time.
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I wonder what the actual production cost is for the adapters. If Ford charges $200 and GM more than that, my guess is that the wholesale cost to GM or Ford is close to $100. Add a little for packaging and shipping (unless that was surcharged) and maybe $120 or $125.
So Ford and GM are selling a $60,000 vehicle and are unwilling to eat the cost of a necessary adapter. That is is just chintzy of them.
So Ford and GM are selling a $60,000 vehicle and are unwilling to eat the cost of a necessary adapter. That is is just chintzy of them.
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Hyundai/Kia are manufacturing their own adapters. GM and Ford are sourcing theirs from Tesla, Lectron and A2Z.
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My wife and I went shopping for either a Kia EV6 or a 'niq 5. We lucked into a no-haggle Kia dealer, and they were straightforward about what they had, what was in stock, what they were getting in soon, etc. The, uhm, salesperson from Hyundai wanted to go on about how quiet the car was. Discussing it while Mr. Hyundai was running the numbers, we decided we liked the EV6 interior better, and the feature set was cheaper from Kia than Hyundai. I feel proud of myself for not ghosting the guy when we realized that.
Anyhow, to the point of the article, getting the adapter was just a quick easy swing by the Kia dealer. Tried it on my father's Tesla charger and couldn't get it to charge. Seems like, just that one day, it only wanted to charge if the car was locked. Dang software engineers!
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Why would president musk want to do that?
You'll have to excuse me from asking but i'm in the UK and i dont understand who does what in your country nowadays.
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Because the Biden administration provided subsidies for EVs, and California Democrats have set EV sales targets that manufacturers must meet. Therefore EVs are bad.
Yes, it really is that stupid.
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Yeah. Ironically, the best charging performance for a 2025 Ioniq is using an adapter at a 350kW CCS station or the relatively rare non-tesla NACS charging station like ionna has been rolling out as that will support the 800v architecture and hit peak speeds over 200kW. The Tesla network may offer a lot of charging stalls and locations closer to the highway in many cases but it isn't the ideal charging experience for Hyundai/Kia cars.
The earlier model cars did cap at about 100 kW but the 2025 with native NACS did bump it up to about 125. This should improve once Tesla rolls out their V4 cabinets that support the high voltages for things like the Hyundai/Kia cars or the cybertruck.
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This might be a little controversial, but I saw some suggest that Hyundai should have put a nominal fee on it... like $50. That way people who really need one would get one (and get one quickly versus waiting in line as every Hyundai will get one, whether they need or plan to us it or not)
It fine if the adapter just sit in their trunk for emergencies the worried/problem is if people try to immediately put it on sale on Ebay (it's the same reason I don't like big tech giveaways at conferences).
I also heard that the Kia adapters are only rated to 350A, which is fine for now... but not if Superchargers get upgraded to 500A it might cause problems (and the adapter is sold to someone who doesn't know).
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Looks like they're only offering free a adapter for '24 and later models?
https://customercare.kiausa.com/NACS
That sucks for me with my '22 EV6.
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The etching is basically engraving the vehicle VIN on the catalytic so that if it's stolen it can be traced back and returned. In theory.
In reality, I'm not sure it matters in most cases. Especially for a vehicle that doesn't have one, but I digress...
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shouldn't matter, in theory. If everything is made properly (yes, assumption), it won't request more power than the shittiest link in the chain is rated for.
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Note that the Kia/Hyundai adapters being given away are only usable at superchargers, not at a L1/L2 Tesla charger. They convert to CCS (the DC fast charging pins), not J1772 (the AC pins). You’d need to buy your own Tesla-to-J1772 adapter.
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