H5N1 bird flu: Nevada dairy worker infected with newly spilled-over strain
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All of these are good ideas even if there isn't a potentially life-threatening pandemic on the horizon, spreading through wild birds and domestic cows.
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Being healthy helps too. ;-) Eat, sleep, exercise, and avoid the likes of smoking and drinking.
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Judging by the article,
- Avoid wild cattle when possible
- If you keep backyard cattle wear gloves when touching/feeding them
- Don't eat raw dairy workers
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While I hope we don't see mass-deaths (similar to COVID) I do hope that we see a nice bout of mass-illness in humans from H5N1 just to see if Trump has learned anything from his idiocy as it relates to pandemics.
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CardcaptorRLH85
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Through January 20, 2021 (the day Biden took office) there were 396,837 American COVID deaths. I'll take your tens of thousands and raise you hundreds of thousands.
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Every news article about this administration keeps me adding a week of food and supplies to what I have. So far is it 9 weeks. By April I suspect I'll have the room filled to the freaking ceiling.
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In theory without "fixing" the constitution he has no more terms. And the SCOTUS has made it clear he can't be held criminally liable for anything he does in office. Which means the idea of Trump learning anything or more, giving a single shit about anything he does is just about a zero percent chance.
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Wild Cattle? as in Feral cows? I mean bison aren't far from that, and rule one with them is keep way, way far away from them or they will mash you into paste, but cows on the loose generally get on the evening news...
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As an Australian I can only give my condolences.
We lost two wars to birds, Emus to be precise. The peace treaty was to put them on our coat of arms. I suggest that the US make peace with their avian overlords and put flaming Galah's on their coat of arms.
We lost two wars to birds, Emus to be precise. The peace treaty was to put them on our coat of arms. I suggest that the US make peace with their avian overlords and put flaming Galah's on their coat of arms.
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It's not Biden's fault, this has been underway for decades. It's been a couple of decades since I read it, but I highly recommend Betrayal of Trust: The Collapse of Global Public Health, published in 2000, by Laurie Garrett (author of 1994's The Coming Plague). From a somewhat mixed review in Nature (January 2001):
(Garrett also covers public health systems in other selected countries in the book.)
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Well I have favourable views about RFK.
1 There is a rather large ocean between us.
2 ........ Um! ......... I may have to think for a while about No 2.
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I’m still shocked Trump has ordered an end to culling birds, in order to bring egg prices down.
The people voted for cheaper eggs, no one said it wouldn’t risk a pandemic to get them.
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Has anyone seen reliable current discussion on these crossover events? I’ve seen some speculation that It’s wild animals but also some that It’s from feeding “poultry litter” to livestock, and that latter case feels like it should be easier to stop if it was confirmed.
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I came across a duck that was hit by a car in an urban area. I was going to help it our of the road but then realized. What the Duck is this bird doing flying around and freeway and getting hit? That bird should not be anywhere near that area. Could it be it was compromised by something like, em bird flu?
So I left it to die as was going to anyways.
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Well then, reassortment time!?
Scientists have been concerned about swine as mixing vessels. Then they have been concerned about humans being infected with seasonal influenza AND H5N1 at the same time, for the same reasons.
So I am assuming they are now concerned about cows being a mixing vessel and co-infected by B3.13 + D1.1 at same time?
Or do the strains have different HA affinity? Guess not, both prefer "bird" alpha-sialic-acid binding and alas the same cells, else it would've been mentioned as a concern. If not by the CDC - then by CIDRAP, NYTimes, or here.
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Every time I see one of these articles, I check to see how area-specific on the person the infection occurs.
If the virus has a hard time spreading from the eyes to the respiratory tract, for instance, it probably means it will have a hard time spreading to another human.
What is likely happening in such cases is that primary virions from the animal are able to infect human cells where there was direct exposure, but for whatever reason those cells don’t end up producing viable virions, so don’t spread the virus further around the body.
It’s hardly a perfect indicator of whether the person is producing viable virions, but it is a data point.
If the virus has a hard time spreading from the eyes to the respiratory tract, for instance, it probably means it will have a hard time spreading to another human.
What is likely happening in such cases is that primary virions from the animal are able to infect human cells where there was direct exposure, but for whatever reason those cells don’t end up producing viable virions, so don’t spread the virus further around the body.
It’s hardly a perfect indicator of whether the person is producing viable virions, but it is a data point.
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2 additional things that come to mind: Wear a respirator/mask (preferably N95 or better) when handling/mucking out bird fecal matter (cleaning out the chicken coup for instance). Avoid areas with large amounts of bird fecal matter (like chicken runs) or staying downwind of such areas for extended amounts of time.
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Yup. I would say "enraged," but otherwise that's life in this stupid timeline.
It's been obvious since Reagan that this is where we were headed, a fact the "never-Trump" Republicans who served in those administrations would like to distance themselves from. They spent decades diligently, even boastfully, sowing dragons' teeth and now wish to piously disavow the whirlwind.
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This will inevitably turn into an airborne pandemic. I remember the supply-chain disruption during COVID and the shortages of meds. I've just ordered two courses of Tamiflu. I'd rather have and not need than the reverse.
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Please be careful: Google Search will map phrases that are similar conceptually together even when they mean completely change the meaning in context. This is one such case.
You are mixing Case Fatality Rate (it's in the title of the paper you cited) for COVID-19 with Mortality Rate for influenza. These have vastly different denominators (cases - which are infected individuals identified through whatever methodology - versus the whole population, regardless of infection status), and periods covered (course of infection versus one year).
And case doesn't even (always) mean all infected individuals in a population in the cited paper, which is a meta-analysis on reported case fatality rates. For example, the 20th paper in the meta-analysis, Cetin et al. 2021, only included patients who received treatment at Tokat State Hospital (i.e. they were relatively severe cases). On the other hand, it also included papers such as #30 Chen et al. 2022 which is based on the whole infected population of Shanghai (recall that like other cities in China, Shanghai was regular testing everyone regardless of symptoms).
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I would not call roadkill aficionado and brain worm housing developer RFK Jr. "less frightening".
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And don't forget really bright, ingestible flashlights! (Remember to turn them on before insertion.)
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Even Trump-enabling Mitch McConnell is aghast that the face-eating leopard is coming for his face for the cardinal sin of having disagreed even once with the leopard.
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Nevada's a big state. Since I live about eight miles from a large Nevada dairy farm, it would be nice to know where in Nevada these outbreaks occurred.
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A lot of wildlife experts here, in Australia, recommend against feeding wild birds, as it disrupts their normal feeding habits, and has run-on effects to the local wildlife.
In terms of H5N1 flu, though, as long as you take the precautions above about working with wild birds (gloves, masks, etc) you're probably OK. Just don't do that thing of holding a piece of fruit in your mouth to get birds to come and eat it.
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I've said it before and I say it again. We need to get rid of factory farming animals. Without them, these pathogens wouldn't have a place to mutate as much and as dangerously and have s chance to jump to humans.
Also, the strain it does for climate and local nature.
Not to forget animal rights.
Also, the strain it does for climate and local nature.
Not to forget animal rights.
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Plenty of young, healthy and unvaccinated people got killed by COVID, remember?
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I'm no expert, but if it was me, I'd wear gloves handling and refilling the feeder, and maybe a mask?
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Florida has an interesting way to help - to combat high egg prices localities are considering easing restrictions on backyard poultry. Having more birds and people living together will do wonders as you won't even have to walk far to harvest your all-important eggs.
Now they just need to let people have cows in town so raw milk aficionados can sip directly from the teat - egg and dairy shortage issues solved! Yay! /s
Now they just need to let people have cows in town so raw milk aficionados can sip directly from the teat - egg and dairy shortage issues solved! Yay! /s
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