Google Gemini Robotics AI model gives robots fine motor skills and adaptability for general world use.
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...but still dirty. =_=I'll put money into one when you can give it a hamper of dirty laundry and it'll hand back a stack of folded.
It seems pretty legit (if perhaps cherry-picked and even then, not very impressive) -- I tend to trust this a lot more than Optimus because of the distinct lack of Elon Musk involvement.Given the recent history of outright fraudlent presentations in this area, forgive me if i am skeptical until these tasks are verified by third parties with unfettered access.
The advanced reasoning module decided that it would be far more efficient to elide the "washing" and "drying" steps....but still dirty. =_=
I wouldn't have a device made by a Musk-owned, or involved in company in my home to begin with.
There is no god damn way we should entrust these arms with a fragile human baby.I still think the ultimate benchmark for robotics will be changing a diaper.
You and me both. I'll be interested when one of these gets agency and kills their maker.Honestly, I don’t give a shit.
I think it will sewing. Real universal sewing. As in a robot using a sewing machine.I still think the ultimate benchmark for robotics will be changing a diaper.
similar enough to human that they're not gonna scare people, different enough from human that they avoid uncanny valleyWhy do they gotta look like I robot prop rejects?
I was thinking dirty to clean dishes, but I like your style.I'll put money into one when you can give it a hamper of dirty laundry and it'll hand back a stack of folded.
Laundry folding robot exist today. Not what you're looking for though.I'll put money into one when you can give it a hamper of dirty laundry and it'll hand back a stack of folded.
For some industrial applications cloud would work just fine. Think, idk, warehouses.The one thing that struck me with these demos is how unbelievably SLOW the movement and reaction times are, and that's probably with unlimited cloud inference power.
Which would mean they're probably several orders of magnitude of efficiency and speed away from doing local processing.
I mean, we're not actually going to have these things run from the cloud, right? Imagine one of these changing a diaper on a baby and Comcast farting out halfway through, leaving your baby suspended in the air (or worse)...
Regardless of what they look like, how will society change when people begin to have emotional attachments to the machines?similar enough to human that they're not gonna scare people, different enough from human that they avoid uncanny valley
Sure, but then we're back to the hilariously low speed these things are working at. Look at the videos. Sure, this could, for example, tape a box closed -- but it would take a minute each to do it. That's about 50 times too slow for industrial applications. Even 10 times faster than this, you'd be laughed out of the room proposing this for industrial use.For some industrial applications cloud would work just fine. Think, idk, warehouses.
I've been carping for years about how it should be illegal to build a robot that people will get attached to that way. Or at the very least you should have to do certain things to discourage it, and definitely not do anything to encourage it.Regardless of what they look like, how will society change when people begin to have emotional attachments to the machines?
How much of that time is spent in understanding what the task is, though, and how easily can you feed back from past performances of very similar tasks to make it faster at any given one?Sure, but then we're back to the hilariously low speed these things are working at. Look at the videos. Sure, this could, for example, tape a box closed -- but it would take a minute each to do it. That's about 50 times too slow for industrial applications. Even 10 times faster than this, you'd be laughed out of the room proposing this for industrial use.
MSR does so many things nobody has ever heard of... "hey, guys, we really want an OS that is fundamentally secure" -- welp, MS did that 22 years ago and nobody cared :-(Microsoft released a similar thing 2 weeks ago: Magma.
I don't think it was reported here but it should be mentioned also, Google shouldn't be taking all the glory. Especially because Microsoft released the model for everyone to play with and Google isn't doing that. And I'm saying that as someone who is usually highly critical of Microsoft.
If it's going to do the same thing over and over, you don't need multi-billion dollar AI to figure it out, it can just be programmed to do it. The flexibility is the entire point of this, and there's just no point in that kind of flexibility in any industrial application I can think of. There is a very good reason this is marketed as a home assistant and not a generic industrial robot.How much of that time is spent in understanding what the task is, though, and how easily can you feed back from past performances of very similar tasks to make it faster at any given one?
1. They're not replacing industrial robots. They're going to replace people by working slowly all night, every night, forever.Sure, but then we're back to the hilariously low speed these things are working at. Look at the videos. Sure, this could, for example, tape a box closed -- but it would take a minute each to do it. That's about 50 times too slow for industrial applications. Even 10 times faster than this, you'd be laughed out of the room proposing this for industrial use.
Edit: and no, a lot of warehouses would not be OK with a cloud dependency either. "Oh, sorry, AWS had a little fart, you're down for a few hours" is not really acceptable for a manufacturing or distribution facility running on single-digit profit percentages. They'd want five 9s up and down, and you wouldn't get that from your ISP unless you pay out the ear... so what does this super-slow, super-expensive, cloud-dependent thing give me over a few purpose-built dumb robots with local control?
I still think the ultimate benchmark for robotics will be changing a diaper.
I'll be impressed when they can and do print money.
I don't much about comic super heroes. But I really didn't get the impression that these were cautionary tales rather than "watch these super strong heroes fight super strong villains, that's so cool".Stan Lee and Steve Ditko: In our comic books we invented Doctor Octopus's robot tentacles as a cautionary tale.
Google: At long last, we have created the robot tentacles from the 2004 classic movie Spider-Man 2, whose main plot could be basically summed up as Don't Create The Robot Tentacles.
My personal benchmark scenario is blindly reaching into a cluttered pocket of items and pulling out a specific one, without dumping any other items or upending the pocket.I'll put money into one when you can give it a hamper of dirty laundry and it'll hand back a stack of folded.