Where are the electric ones?
Where are the electric ones?
I guess since it is their favorite cars you can not argue the point but you have left out some great cars. The Miata and the Mazda 6 are two of them. Both fun to drive and get good mileage.
What about the new Corvette? A mid-engined supercar? 911 performance for the cost of a Boxter? Really?
I can discount the sanity of anyone that puts an Alfa on their list. I am sure Alfa's are great cars to test drive but their reliability makes them a rolling nightmare. I know that some people just love them but then some people really love their abusive spouses.
What I do not get are performance SUVs. They will never be as good as a car as far as speed and handling. You can get sedans that will carry 5 people in comfort and you can get minivans if you need to carry more. Unless you need to go off-road, tow, or haul a lot of stuff off-road then what is the point? I doubt most suvs ever see a dirt road these days. I guess they are for the super rich to take on ski trips.
Where are the electric ones?
Sorry chaps, but this feels like a review of the best steam locomotive in 1950. Or the best Nokia in 2010.
Thanks guys,
Really enjoyed the coverage this year. Been really interested at the transition of cars from mechanical things to another IT platform. I’ve also been saddened that half of the Japanese car industry (Nissan outside of EVs, Mitsubishi, Lexus) haven’t worked that out yet. Who thought a billion Buttons in a cockpit that you can’t look at while moving at speed was a good idea. A question - with No Volkswagens, Renault’s, Toyota’s on the best list, where are they at?
Not a critique, just an observation: No ultimate driving machine sedans, but one SUV.
Not a critique, just an observation: No ultimate driving machine sedans, but one SUV.
BMW has really screwed the pooch. I love the i3, but it is not a practical car for a lot of people, and terrible value at MSRP. meanwhile, how could anyone spend so much money on a 3-series sedan when Tesla's exist? The 5-series at least has luxury going for it, but neither one is particularly compelling. The PHEV versions of both are also expensive enough that I can't understand who or what they are even for.
Not a critique, just an observation: No ultimate driving machine sedans, but one SUV.
BMW has really screwed the pooch. I love the i3, but it is not a practical car for a lot of people, and terrible value at MSRP. meanwhile, how could anyone spend so much money on a 3-series sedan when Tesla's exist? The 5-series at least has luxury going for it, but neither one is particularly compelling. The PHEV versions of both are also expensive enough that I can't understand who or what they are even for.
Not a critique, just an observation: No ultimate driving machine sedans, but one SUV.
BMW has really screwed the pooch. I love the i3, but it is not a practical car for a lot of people, and terrible value at MSRP. meanwhile, how could anyone spend so much money on a 3-series sedan when Tesla's exist? The 5-series at least has luxury going for it, but neither one is particularly compelling. The PHEV versions of both are also expensive enough that I can't understand who or what they are even for.
The PHEV 530e is the exact same price as the not-hybrid 530i. That’s actually one of the few things BMW seems to have done right recently.
With all due respect, what the hell is this doing on Ars, and lastly, what is this list...? Stick to value articles, there much more fun.
So, we're still sticking with Ignoring the Disaster of the Global Warming Heat Wave in Australia right now with 500 MILLION Animals Dead. Don't even know the human death count yet. Wild fire breakouts just like in California.
In other words, when is stopping our march to Extinction going to get us off Carbon burning Cars.
What death count will be high enough?
How about the Global Warming extreme Flooding in the US Bread Belt, the US Farming States?
How much worse dies it have to get?
There should be No gas car in this list, or any list for the next 50 years.
We're in a race to extinction.
This is supposed to be a Tech Site.
So, there should be no car article, unless their Electric or they have advance AI systems.
Thanks guys,
Really enjoyed the coverage this year. Been really interested at the transition of cars from mechanical things to another IT platform. I’ve also been saddened that half of the Japanese car industry (Nissan outside of EVs, Mitsubishi, Lexus) haven’t worked that out yet. Who thought a billion Buttons in a cockpit that you can’t look at while moving at speed was a good idea. A question - with No Volkswagens, Renault’s, Toyota’s on the best list, where are they at?
We’re an American publication writing for an overwhelmingly American audience. When Renault starts selling cars in the US again, we’ll start reviewing them.
The only VWs I drove this year were a Jetta GLI (which is fine but not a top 10 car), the ID Buggy which is a concept, and the new Passat which was almost as mediocre as the Maxima but has not-broken steering and better infotainment so it’s probably only the 6th most mediocre car I drove all year.
In the new year you can read reviews of the Prius Prime and Corolla Hybrid; neither stood out enough to merit a top 10 spot.
So, we're still sticking with Ignoring the Disaster of the Global Warming Heat Wave in Australia right now with 500 MILLION Animals Dead. Don't even know the human death count yet. Wild fire breakouts just like in California.
In other words, when is stopping our march to Extinction going to get us off Carbon burning Cars.
What death count will be high enough?
How about the Global Warming extreme Flooding in the US Bread Belt, the US Farming States?
How much worse dies it have to get?
There should be No gas car in this list, or any list for the next 50 years.
We're in a race to extinction.
I'm sure you bitching about it in these comments is going to fix everything. Just be sure you don't dislocate your shoulder from patting yourself on the back too hard.
This is supposed to be a Tech Site.
So, there should be no car article, unless their Electric or they have advance AI systems.
There's a hell of a lot of tech which has gone into making ICEs run as cleanly and efficiently as they do.
or is "tech" in your mind just stuffing thousands of laptop battery cells into a car and having them power a 100 year old electric motor design?
Really, a personal attack? Why would I pat myself on the back while Australia is enjoying a carbon burning heat wave of 120 degrees F. temperatures?
Thousands of laptop battery production doesn't match the long tale of Refinery Pollution, much less the Canadian Tar Sands operations, which are both the most polluting oil source and the lease economic.
When we could get off coal for heat, we did, we went to diesel heat, then we went to Natural Gas heat, now we're going to heat pumps, and electric. With clean energy sources because we must.
With 7 Billion people on the planet we cannot survive sticking with the old "tech".
So, we're still sticking with Ignoring the Disaster of the Global Warming Heat Wave in Australia right now with 500 MILLION Animals Dead. Don't even know the human death count yet. Wild fire breakouts just like in California.
In other words, when is stopping our march to Extinction going to get us off Carbon burning Cars.
What death count will be high enough?
How about the Global Warming extreme Flooding in the US Bread Belt, the US Farming States?
How much worse dies it have to get?
There should be No gas car in this list, or any list for the next 50 years.
We're in a race to extinction.
I'm sure you bitching about it in these comments is going to fix everything. Just be sure you don't dislocate your shoulder from patting yourself on the back too hard.
This is supposed to be a Tech Site.
So, there should be no car article, unless their Electric or they have advance AI systems.
There's a hell of a lot of tech which has gone into making ICEs run as cleanly and efficiently as they do.
or is "tech" in your mind just stuffing thousands of laptop battery cells into a car and having them power a 100 year old electric motor design?
Really, a personal attack? Why would I pat myself on the back while Australia is enjoying a carbon burning heat wave of 120 degrees F. temperatures?
Thousands of laptop battery production doesn't match the long tale of Refinery Pollution, much less the Canadian Tar Sands operations, which are both the most polluting oil source and the lease economic.
When we could get off coal for heat, we did, we went to diesel heat, then we went to Natural Gas heat, now we're going to heat pumps, and electric. With clean energy sources because we must.
With 7 Billion people on the planet we cannot survive sticking with the old "tech".
Maybe the entire country being on fire is the motivation Australians need to reduce their per capita carbon emissions, which are higher than just about anywhere else on earth.
With all due respect, what the hell is this doing on Ars, and lastly, what is this list...? Stick to value articles, there much more fun.
So, there should be no car article, unless their Electric or they have advance AI systems.