The interview downplayed the disease, maligned vaccines, touted unproven treatments
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Anti-vaccine group founded by RFK Jr. weaponizes child’s measles death
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I was raised by hillbillies in the 50’s.
Got measles in 1960, was sick as Hell, and finally got taken to the hospital when my temperature hit 107 and I started seizures.
Took me weeks to recover.
Got measles in 1960, was sick as Hell, and finally got taken to the hospital when my temperature hit 107 and I started seizures.
Took me weeks to recover.
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What a load of crap. "I knew better, and I killed my child" is how you summarize this junk. Parents should be in jail.
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I have a strong belief that anyone who deliberately spreads misinformation that can directly endanger people's health should be arrested and legally punished. Personal freedom doesn't include any action or speech that endangers public lives.
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Like we do, Mennonites have a fair chunk of the state. I'd give a limb just to know what they think when their kids fall ill and ours don't (by law all kids under 10 y.o. must have all their shots, MMR first of all).
I suppose no Mennonite pizza or buffets this year until it all plays out (they brought measles from Texas).
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It's beyond belief that parents are willing to sacrifice their children for their beliefs. A belief that a proven simple and effective medical treatment will harm their children but allows them to accept their child's death because of not using that method. These type of people are no different than a parent deliberately killing their own children and if they care that little for their own child how can anyone believe they give a rats ass about anyone else? These smooth brained 'parents' have proven not only are they a danger to their surviving children but a danger to society in general. Those children should be removed for their own protection. True parents are willing to kill for their children and not the other way around.
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Time to head for the exists: https://www.henleyglobal.com/residence-investment
Will the last one out please turn off the lights?
Will the last one out please turn off the lights?
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A not-insignificant proportion of people in Sub-Saharan Africa, especially West Africa, have some acquired immunity to malaria. Some individuals can live life normally with parasite counts that'll drop a Westerner (or anyone not from the region) dead in a couple of days flat.
Yet, you don't see parents playing roulette with the lives of their children when they get malaria. Parents don't say "oh anyone can recover from malaria on their own" (some can). Instead, kids are quickly treated as soon as symptoms develop. Why? The concern is not only the lethality of P. falciparum blowing up one's red blood cells to smithereens and reducing one's lifespan. Locals understand that the parasite can cause neurological damage and a host of other health issues if infection is prolonged.
Knowing that measles can similarly cause neurological damage and other problems, why would any parent take that risk with their own children??? Is the potential damage to the child worth the bragging rights of "ha! my kid survived"?
Yet, you don't see parents playing roulette with the lives of their children when they get malaria. Parents don't say "oh anyone can recover from malaria on their own" (some can). Instead, kids are quickly treated as soon as symptoms develop. Why? The concern is not only the lethality of P. falciparum blowing up one's red blood cells to smithereens and reducing one's lifespan. Locals understand that the parasite can cause neurological damage and a host of other health issues if infection is prolonged.
Knowing that measles can similarly cause neurological damage and other problems, why would any parent take that risk with their own children??? Is the potential damage to the child worth the bragging rights of "ha! my kid survived"?
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On the bright side, they're self-selecting as unfit and helping remove their genes from the pool.
I mean, yes, "All children are special(TM)", but you can't fix stupid.
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People keep saying that Russian Roulette is so dangerous, but really it's not. I mean, when I played, the gun just went click! No big deal. Go ahead and play! You'll probably be fine.
Yeah, you might get hurt, but really, what are the odds? And think of the fun you'll miss out on if you don't play.
Yeah, you might get hurt, but really, what are the odds? And think of the fun you'll miss out on if you don't play.
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It's a cycle: The vaccine protects against the virus, dying of the virus protects against stupidity, and being stupid protects against the vaccine.
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Maybe they didn't get the bill yet, for the hospital and the burial.
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Calibration confirmed. You just had a perfectly normal reaction.
Those people? Yeah, they live in another universe and no one here understands them. We speculate, but we don't understand.
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Cyril Kornbluth predicted this. 55 years before, so I think giving him precedence...
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I cynically want to know if the family got paid for the interview. The dad spouting the same "measles strengthens your immune system" bullshit that RFK Jr said (last week?) really makes me think they were prepped.
Or that is just a commonly held belief in anti-vax circles.
Or that is just a commonly held belief in anti-vax circles.
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Think of it as building an artificial reef to save the coral. It'll be a living memorial that they did indeed contribute some minor good to society.
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"They took her to the emergency room and she was admitted to the hospital."
Why trust the scientists at that point?
Why trust the scientists at that point?
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No, they're trying to sow division along political and social lines, left vs right. Antivax is not political (not originally, not fundamentally)
I get where you're coming from but a BIG part of the shunning is the LITERAL PHYSICAL RISK OF BEING NEAR THEM. Their physical presence is a risk.
Now think shit through next time instead of trying sooo hard to come off as "enlightened."
If they wanted to listen to reason, THEY WOULD HAVE. We are NOT talking about someone who is simply unsure and ignorant. We are talking about people that are WILLING TO LET THEIR CHILDREN DIE SO THEY CAN AVOID ASKING THEMSELVES IF THEY WERE WRONG.
Letting your child die a horrific death because YOU are insecure about your intelligence?? Fuck no, you don't get to participate in society anymore. You don't get to leech off the rest of us. You don't get to kill us and our kids through insecurity.
The human race needs to grow the fuck up. No more tolerating pseudoscience. No more tolerating people that allow others to die so they don't have to think too hard about something that's mildly uncomfortable.
Enough is fucking ENOUGH.
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Huh... what government? Trusk is seeing to it that it gets destroyed. Except for the police and the military of course.
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We are dealing with people who sincerely praise Abraham for his willingness to sacrifice his son to YHWH, and admonish fellow believers to do the same.
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We see this in other situations. The Soviet pilot who shot down KAL007 still thinks it was a spy plane and a lawful order-- because the alternative is something so horrible, his mind is preventing him from accepting that he pulled the trigger and killed all those innocent people (caveat: he was the instrument, the system was stacked against him, etc.)
I'm completely unsurprised that these parents would continue with their beliefs. Because accepting "we killed our child" is something so horrible -- something they are literally trying to prevent through not vaccinating -- they will resist it no matter what. Even if it is the sad truth.
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"The Ebola wasn't that bad, mostly just cleaning up some projectile blood vomit. I mean, it's not like my children exploded or denied Christ or anything like that ..."
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My exact thoughts. The hospital was good enough but not the vaccine that would have prevented that trip to the hospital. Wouldn't that be a paradox in a belief system that you trusted God to fix your child which didn't work so ultimately took them to a heathen hospital? Didn't they just damn themselves for doing so?
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Women apparently have something wired in their brains to "forget" how strenuous and painful child bearing and labor is to incentivize having more kids. It's like whatever that wire in the brain was has been frayed (not just in women) to "there's an acceptable amount of pain and torture and death people can suffer because we can always just make more".
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They'd argue "the child didn't die of measles; she died of pneumonia." And technically, they wouldn't be wrong. But it was the measles that wiped out their body's defenses, allowing pneumonia to build to fatal levels. That's something that has been understood for decades. So as far as observable symptoms, yeah; the measles wasn't that bad. But it WAS that bad, because it destroyed their daughter's immune system.
It's like if someone pushed a person in front of a speeding car. Sure, it was the speeding car that killed them, but that wouldn't have happened if the person hadn't pushed them into a vulnerable position. In those situations, the person would be arrested for murder. In this situation, we get a shrug and a "how could they have known?"
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Might as well the roosians had saved the bother and the expense since people are doing it of their own accord. Mennonites rejecting modern medicine is not news by a looong show and by that I mean > 50 years or really when they began settling in the state.
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Just here to point out the obvious, the reason people used to have tons of kids (like the five in this case) are because some of their children were going to die.
This kid was disposable to the parent, and I wouldn't be shocked if they lost another few and didn't change anything.
This kid was disposable to the parent, and I wouldn't be shocked if they lost another few and didn't change anything.
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It's really comforting that it's 1/3000, until the one is your kid, and then the probability becomes 1, and your baby is a dead piece of meat rotting in the ground.
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This.
Religion should not shelter you from negligent homicide charges. Perhaps that will make people think that there are direct consequences for themselves. Right now the only consequence the parents are is a dead child and that role will probably get filled rather quickly.
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The sin of pride makes you so vengeful and stupid that some people would rather kill or die than admit they were wrong and repent. Some would rather kill their own children.
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It's literally a coping mechanism made manifest through belief. Truly sad that there are people who would rather cling to archaic beliefs than see the world for what it is.
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So, so true. People are free to juggle chainsaws if that's their thing, but I also have the freedom to keep a safe distance. And more to the point, your average public space -- grocery stores, malls, doctor's offices -- will throw you the hell out if you try juggling chainsaws in their space.
People who avoid vaccinations for certain super-dangerous diseases like measles for non-medical reasons are in pretty much the same boat. They're free to do whatever the hell they like, but IMO they have to use different air than normal people. If that means choosing between compulsory vaccination and requiring them to use giant plastic hamster balls for when they have to venture outside their homes, I don't actually care which one. But breathing the same air is simply a non-starter.
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So the stupid bitch chose to let her child die a death that could have been avoided - she should be convicted of murder.
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When she breeds children as if they are disposable then it begins to become apparent how she believes that she can lose a few to the fires of life. Death cuts are like that.
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I suppose it's a good thing that "one is never enough on an overcrowded planet" means she still has 4 other children to ruin.
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Kick 'em in the knee and dump them in remote wilderness so they can prove it?
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