"zeolite based cat litter?" As in carbon sequestration zeolite? I mean, cat poo as a carbon sink? (Lights go on, then off, then on, then ...)
Ontario Power Generation has made a decision to build a BWRX-300 SMR at their Darlington site. Darlington already has CANDUs there. The BWRX-300 is a natural circulation 300 MWe boiling water reactor design with passive safety systems from GE-Hitachi. They think it could be completed as soon as 2028.
The BWRX-300 hasn't had as much publicity as some of the other SMRs because it hasn't gotten DOE money to develop it. There does seem to be a fair amount of interest in building them. It looks like Poland and TVA in the US are going to build them in addition to Ontario Power Generation in Canada. The technology for the design has a high level of technological maturity and it will use standard BWR fuel that could be procured from multiple vendors. There was a recent announcement that BWXT Canada will build the reactor pressure vessels for the BWRX-300.Started to hear more about this design. I don't recall paying particular attention to it previously but it seems like a really good balance of size, passive safety, and low novelty. A good set of tradeoffs if you want to get something built ASAP.
The BWRX-300 hasn't had as much publicity as some of the other SMRs because it hasn't gotten DOE money to develop it. There does seem to be a fair amount of interest in building them. It looks like Poland and TVA in the US are going to build them in addition to Ontario Power Generation in Canada. The technology for the design has a high level of technological maturity and it will use standard BWR fuel that could be procured from multiple vendors. There was a recent announcement that BWXT Canada will build the reactor pressure vessels for the BWRX-300.
Natural circulation BWRs get close to the same power density as pumped flow BWRs. The RPVs need to be taller to get enough natural circulation driving head to provide the core flow. You get more driving head in a natural circulation BWR than you do in a natural circulation PWR for the same height because of the bigger density difference of the two-phase mixture on the hot side of the flow loop in the BWR compared to just hotter water in the PWR. I don't think BWRs are necessarily better suited for being SMRs than PWRs are. PWRs can have passive natural circulation heat exchangers too.This is intuition more than anything else but I think I've shifted to the view that a lot of the SMRs went too small. Whereas some of the other sub-GW reactors didn't save enough on the construction costs. It seems like the BWRX-300 is really at a sweet spot because the interest in construction seems pretty good for a new reactor. I mean that's not a huge number of firm orders but it's still pretty damn good compared to the state of the rest of the industry. In particular my layperson's impression is that they have done a very good job of reducing the civil construction required while still achieving a good level of passive safety and making good use of existing technology.
Also, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems like the BWR technology is well suited to adaptation to SMRs in ways I had not recognized previously. I remember previous discussion on natural circulation vs relying on pumps to get better power density. But in a core that's designed to boil continuously you can just let the phase separation do that job. And then in shutdown the core that's designed to boil water just keeps boiling water. As long as the condensers can keep up, which they easily can because they are oversized, the water will be condensed fast enough to keep the pressure under control.
There is a significant amount of work to get early site permits but the process has been exercised multiple times now and it is now a known and tested process. There is the matter of the environmental impact in addition to the safety analysis since the plants have to meet National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) requirements.Those sites would still need NRC licensing, though. That'll be a huge time and cost burden, unless GE can convince them that the BWRX-300 is so safe that siting isn't a big deal.
Don't know if it was already linked, but here's MIT's analysis of AP1000 LCOE and what happened at Vogtle.It's been a long time coming but, Vogtle Unit 3 was connected to the grid on Saturday April 1st. It will now go through testing is supposed to go into full commercial operation in May or June. Vogtle 4 started hot testing recently and is supposed to go into full commercial operation by the of this year or beginning of next year.
But it's just steel and concrete and it follows the modelled projections in papers well; everything gets cheaper per copy built, and they build a lot of them.As with any prospective study, the only way to lend credence to something like this is to do a proper review after the next unit is delivered. So whenever the next reactor would be built, let's see if these estimates come close.
And of course the standard criticism of HPR1000 is: we don't actually know their costs. So far nobody has been able to independently verify their claims, and there are big incentives to lie. We saw the same happening when China exported their high-speed rail and other infrastructure; suddenly HSR in Kenya cost three times as much as reported cost in China was supposed to be.
The OPR-1000 is smaller than a System 80. It came came from an earlier Combustion Engineering design but it might have some system 80 features. The APR-1400 is a descendent of the System 80+ which is an evolution of System 80.Oh, South Korea is also cooking. System 80 -> OPR-1000 (12x operational) -> APR-1400 (6x operational, 6x commissioning/testing/under construction). System 80 -> AP1000 is the Westinghouse evolution line.
This is one of the data used for cost vs copy number in the paper.
DOW and X-energy announced a site for the 4 unit Xe-100 hight temperature helium cooled reactor plant they are going to build. It5 will supply both electricity and process heat to a site in Texas. They want to start construction in 2026. Dow has a cost sharing agreement with DOE under the advanced reactor development program.
I'll just stop you there. The Noord-Zuidlijn is just steel and concrete as well, and I think you can see where I'm going with this ;-)But it's just steel and concrete and it follows the modelled projections in papers well; everything gets cheaper per copy built, and they build a lot of them.
The other interesting pebble bed technology is the Kairos Power molten salt cooled pebble bed reactor. They are hoping to start construction later this year on a small 35 MWt technology demonstration reactor for their 320 MWt plant concept. It would also be good technology for combine electricity and process heat applications.Interesting news. I've always had a soft spot for pebble bed technology after doing my undergrad final paper on them.
It's really hard to go down this line of reasoning, because this is exactly how nuclear power in the US, Russia and France started as well. They were seen as projects for public good and/or maintaining nuclear weapons, so they were essentially subsidized and fast-tracked through means that have since become inaccessible, heavily contested and partially or completely rolled back.Good thing NIMBY doesn't get you very far in China, and you tend to build your nuclear reactors not in the middle of a city with mud as foundation.
After copy 30 they probably know what to do![]()
lolIt is the AP1000+++ (using Intel's terminology)
Absolutely! But, like, there's much more going on in this regard. The nuclear 'renaissance' of the late 90s/early '00s ground to a halt on the back of multiple structural issues. The 'construction hell' (I like it, like production hell in media production) happened in multiple stages, from federal support commitments not materializing early on to 9/11 the credit crisis to fukushima. All these things happened and caused things to change drastically for this project, and that's not something you can ignore. That's only 10 years of world history, and even the most optimistic construction timelines for nuclear construction now - including SMR - stretches at least that long if you include permitting.yes, but as seen in the cost paper, learning also needs to be done by the builders as most of the labor is done on site. With many copies of each plant design being built, the builders get valuable experience that makes it cheap and it probably is minimally transfereable to the west, they won't accept "belt and road" style project bids including crew.
tokamak of less than half meter radius reaches 100 million degrees
the hype
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-compact-fusion-reactor-barely-3-feet-across-has-hit-a-huge-milestone
The science
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1741-4326/acbec8
The benchtop devices you speak of do not have thermal plasmas of that temperature. They have electrostatically accelerated ions that have the energy of a thermal particle of that temperature. There is a big difference between that and having a large thermalized plasma. The key statement in the article of why this is important is:Not immediately clear to me why this is important. Just the temperature in itself doesn't get you much, and much higher temperatures are possible with benchtop devices and have been for decades.
It might be doing something interesting from an engineering perspective, and some of the concepts developed might be interesting for larger devices, but just in terms of plasma confinement as far as I can tell this falls well short of existing devices like JET. As far as I can tell the triple product is roughly where fusion experiments were in the 1980s.
I believe the highest performance Tokomak at this time is JT-60U, which is not equipped for using tritium but I believe most people think it could reach scientific breakeven if it ran with D-T.
"Ion temperatures in excess of 5 keV [kiloelectronvolts ] have not previously been reached in any ST and have only been obtained in much larger devices with substantially more plasma heating power," write the researchers in their published paper.
I know, that example is to illustrate why a temperature bereft of context is useless and in a broader sense how flawed this type of clickbait science communication is.The benchtop devices you speak of do not have thermal plasmas of that temperature. They have electrostatically accelerated ions that have the energy of a thermal particle of that temperature.
My understanding is that it is not unique in that regard, eg MIT SPARC.ST stands for spherical tokamak. It is a much smaller and less expensive machine than the large tokamaks.
Cheaper to build, cheaper to run in certain aspects, more efficient and stable D-shaped plasma.Is there anything unique about the spherical configuration that makes it particularly advantageous?
I think the only thing giving some hope here is that the scaling is not perfectly understood, so it is ambiguous which design performs better at realistic power plant scale. Various tokomak geometries, possibly even stellarators, etc. Toroidal tokomaks with a D-shaped cross section with the flat side facing in are the farthest along but it's so expensive to experiment that we don't really know how other approaches would scale.Then again, Q of an ST is inherently higher already, so you can 'get away' with a smaller reactor. What ST proponents are hoping for, is that the scaling downside isn't as bad as the efficiency upside of a ST over a traditional tokamak.
Read about them a little yesterday and apparently the neutron flux in the center is so severe that some people are talking about a resistive magnet made of molten metal just to be able to get the heat out.maybe not even being able to work with superconducting magnets at all
Molten metal magnets,that combination of words hints at some very exciting failure modes.I think the only thing giving some hope here is that the scaling is not perfectly understood, so it is ambiguous which design performs better at realistic power plant scale. Various tokomak geometries, possibly even stellarators, etc. Toroidal tokomaks with a D-shaped cross section with the flat side facing in are the farthest along but it's so expensive to experiment that we don't really know how other approaches would scale.
Read about them a little yesterday and apparently the neutron flux in the center is so severe that some people are talking about a resistive magnet made of molten metal just to be able to get the heat out.
Yeah, I've read that too as I was factchecking my own musings in the previous post. It sounds, like a lot of physicsy engineering in these kinds of megaprojects, really cool but also like it couldn't possibly work?
Liquids aren't stable forms of matter under a vacuum, they will always create a partial pressure of gas, especially at elevated temperatures. I'd assume a jet of molten metal running through a reactor with a few hundred MW/m2 of radiation will heat up plenty of that molten material to mess up your vacuum, right?
Here is the case for spherical tokamaks and how the new high temperature superconductors might make them feasible for a reactor. I haven't looked at any of the conceptual designs recently, but I don't think any steady state tokamak is really feasible without superconducting magnets. There would already be a lot of required recirculating power in a tokamak power plant even with them.I think the only thing giving some hope here is that the scaling is not perfectly understood, so it is ambiguous which design performs better at realistic power plant scale. Various tokomak geometries, possibly even stellarators, etc. Toroidal tokomaks with a D-shaped cross section with the flat side facing in are the farthest along but it's so expensive to experiment that we don't really know how other approaches would scale.
Read about them a little yesterday and apparently the neutron flux in the center is so severe that some people are talking about a resistive magnet made of molten metal just to be able to get the heat out.
I am aware, but this is one of those counter-intuitive scaling things.I haven't looked at any of the conceptual designs recently, but I don't think any steady state tokamak is really feasible without superconducting magnets. There would already be a lot of required recirculating power in a tokamak power plant even with them.
Here's a front-page article about new experimental results from an inverted D shaped tokamak. It gave unexpectedly good results and would have some advantages for reactor engineering.
I am aware, but this is one of those counter-intuitive scaling things. For a given field strength, fusion power is proportional with plasma volume, but resistive magnet power dissipation is proportional to the cube root of plasma volume. This means that while existing experiments are superconducting and it would be a huge energy cost to go resistive, at power plant scale it may be the case that resistive magnets would be a minor loss.
One of the best funded private fusion companies, General Fusion, is building a pulsed power spherical tokamak. It has a liquid metal first wall that will compress the plasma to ignition.I only realized this reading about the molten metal central solenoid proposed for spherical tokomaks,
There is probably a reasonable scientific case for half a dozen ITER-scale experiments for different tokomak variants, stellarators, etc, but the money just isn't there.
The companies getting the awards are:The Department of Energy is sharing USD46 million funding from the Milestone-based Fusion Development Program among eight companies, with the aim that "within five to 10 years" they "will resolve scientific and technological challenges to create designs for a fusion pilot plant".
Commonwealth Fusion Systems (tokamak)
It does seem like a small amount for some of the companies. I think CFS raised close to $2B in their latest round of funding a couple years ago that let them start building the magnet factory and SPARC. CFS is so well funded that they were supporting Realta Fusion (short video if you want to see some information about them) although it's not clear if they are providing cash or just superconducting magnets. The article does say this about the funding:Seems like no more than a token amount of money? Especially as CFS, Tokamak, Zap, etc. have already gotten hundreds of millions in VC and angel funding.
It doesn't say what the milestones are and how much additional money they could get for meeting them.The funding is for the first 18 months, and projects may last up to five years in duration, with "outyear funding contingent on congressional appropriations, and continued participation from the teams contingent on satisfactory progress in meeting the negotiated milestones".
CFS is the best bet to hit scientific breakeven, but tokamaks are probably the worst concept in terms of overcoming engineering challenges needed to build a power plant.Hm, that's the folks behind SPARC. I would say that is probably the most credible private effort out there. Conventional tokomak design using newer (but already commercially available) superconductors to achieve a 20T magnetic field (vs ITER's 12T).
You'll have to expand on that. Just due to the size requirements?CFS is the best bet to hit scientific breakeven, but tokamaks are probably the worst concept in terms of overcoming engineering challenges needed to build a power plant.
CFS is the best bet to hit scientific breakeven, but tokamaks are probably the worst concept in terms of overcoming engineering challenges needed to build a power plant.