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Mars is teasing us.
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Humanity has been dreaming of landing
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on the Red Planet for over a century.
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And with the advent of space flight and moon landings,
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it seems like it should be just right around the corner.
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And these missions wouldn't just be
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for scientific exploration, which would be super awesome,
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'cause we would learn about the origins of life
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and the formation of the solar system.
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They would serve to set up a permanent human presence
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on Mars, a colony on another world.
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If only we could figure out how to do it.
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Before we launch on our first mission to Mars,
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let's look at the pros and cons
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of living on the Red Planet.
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Let's start with the cons, and frankly,
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there are a lot of cons.
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It has less than 1% of the air pressure of the Earth,
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and what air there is, it's almost entirely carbon dioxide.
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Mars has no liquid water.
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There is water there, but it's locked up as ice,
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either underneath the surface or in the polar ice caps.
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We need liquid water to survive,
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and this makes it just so much more challenging.
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Next, Mars is constantly suffering bombardment
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of solar radiation and cosmic rays.
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These are high-energy particles that can break apart cells
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and even snip DNA itself.
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Without a thick atmosphere and without a magnetic field,
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Mars is just exposed to this deadly radiation
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and can increase cancer rates for any Martian colonists.
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Mars is far from the Earth,
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hundreds of millions of miles away.
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It would be the most distant mission we've ever sent,
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and it's also socially distant.
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Martian colonists would be the furthest human beings
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from Earth in, well, the entire solar system.
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Mars has less gravity than the Earth does.
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We don't know fully how to live and work
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and maintain our health and fitness
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in low-gravity environments.
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Our hearts shrink, our muscles degrade,
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our bones wither away.
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We don't even know if fetuses in the womb
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can grow straight spines without Earth's gravity.
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To go along with that, Mars has about half
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of the sunlight that Earth does.
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And so anything that requires solar energy,
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like solar power or photosynthesis,
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is going to be so much less efficient.
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Mars occasionally experiences global dust storms.
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The dust on Mars has been blowing for billions of years,
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and it's not like dust or sand you might find in a desert.
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It's more like a fine talcum powder that gets everywhere
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and occasionally coats the entire planet,
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blocking out the sun for months on end.
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Mars is also cold, really, really cold.
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The average temperature
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on Mars is negative 81 degrees Fahrenheit,
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and it gets as low as negative 220 degrees Fahrenheit.
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It's just a cold place.
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It's colder than the coldest places on Earth.
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And if that weren't enough, the soil on Mars is full
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of toxic chemicals that have to be filtered out
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before you can use it as soil to grow crops
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or to breathe in or to just exist in.
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These are all the cons.
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What are some of the pros of going to Mars?
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Why would we wanna do that?
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Well, who doesn't like an adventure?
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No, I'm serious, I'm serious.
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Adventure and exploration has been a part of humanity.
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It's something that defines our species.
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And going to Mars is simply the next step
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in a journey that we've been on for tens
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if not hundreds of thousands of years.
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And hey, Mars can offer another home.
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If something catastrophic were to happen to the Earth,
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we'd have a plan B, a planet B, if you will.
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And hey, going along with that,
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Mars has lots of empty space free for the taking.
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No one has a claim on Mars.
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No one is already living there.
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So it gives us a chance to colonize, to explore,
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to build new cities and new civilizations
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without eliminating existing ones.
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And there's tons of science to be done on Mars.
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Not just the history of the Red Planet,
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but the origins of life.
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Mars was once a potential home for life
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with liquid water and a thick atmosphere,
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but something stopped.
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Understanding what happened on Mars
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can help us understand the origins of life on the Earth.
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And lastly, my favorite reason to go to Mars,
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lots and lots of red.
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If you're a fan of the color red,
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well then, this planet is for you.
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That was very satisfying.
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Anyway, if Mars is so terrible,
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why should we even bother going there?
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Why don't we go to the moon?
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The moon, it's literally next door.
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It's only days away instead of months away.
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There are some advantages to Mars over the moon.
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For one, it's bigger, so it does have more gravity,
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and it does have water.
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It's frozen, but it still exists and is accessible.
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Among all the worlds in the solar system,
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Mars is the closest thing we have to Earth.
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So to design our mission to Mars,
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let's go to the chalkboard.
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Let's take a look at what a single mission
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to Mars would look like.
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This is our solar system.
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Well kind of, it's not exactly to scale.
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But here in the center we have our happy little sun,
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and here we have the orbit of the Earth
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and the orbit of Mars.
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If we want to get from Earth to Mars,
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we have to do some very complicated orbital dynamics.
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We need to rely on Newton.
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Okay, maybe he'll show up later.
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Actually figuring out and plotting these missions is
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incredibly difficult, and that's because the Earth
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in its orbit, it's constantly moving, and so is Mars
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at a different distance and a different speed.
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So the most efficient way to get to Mars is
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to wait for conjunctions, when our planets align.
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To sketch out a mission here,
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let's say we're on the Earth
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and we wanna send a mission to Mars.
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But when we're in conjunction,
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by the time the mission actually gets to Mars,
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it's not gonna be here, it's gonna be way up here.
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So Mars is gonna be here in its orbit.
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So our trajectory from Earth to Mars will look like this.
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And with chemical rockets, that'll take about 180 days
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in a weightless environment just to get to Mars.
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Now, you get on Mars, you land, you poke around,
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you scare all the Martians,
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you do your normal Martian business there,
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and you wanna get back to Earth.
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You're not in conjunction anymore.
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You have to wait for the planets to align again.
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So you have to wait on Mars as it continues its year
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before everything lines up again.
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And only then can you return to the Earth, and guess what?
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It's another long trip.
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When you launch from Mars here,
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the Earth is not gonna be in conjunction anymore.
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You have to travel another 180 days to intersect
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and safely return to Earth.
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This is one of the most energy-efficient missions to Mars,
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and the entire mission duration is two years.
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That's longer than any mission
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we have ever had in space before.
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And that's just a single mission.
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To build a colony of permanent human presence,
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we need tens, hundreds, thousands
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of missions to the Red Planet.
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We're gonna have to bring a lot of stuff.
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I mean, oh boy, think about all the things
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that you surround yourself with in your daily life.
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Like air, we're gonna have to bring our own air to Mars
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or figure out how to make it there.
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We're gonna need communications gear
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so we can talk to each other and call back to home.
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We're gonna need a mode of transportation,
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not just to get to Mars,
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but to move around on Mars, to explore.
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We're gonna need storage, we need like grain silos.
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Is there grain on Mars?
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No, there's not grain on Mars,
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but we're gonna need silos for something eventually.
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We need food, we're gonna have to either bring food
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from Earth or figure out how to grow it on Martian soil.
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We're gonna have to figure out how
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to extract resources from Mars.
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We need to turn that Martian regolith into walls
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and ceilings and toilets and stuff, all sorts of stuff.
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We need utilities, we need plumbing and electrical conduits.
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We need ethernet cables and cell phone transmitters.
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We need fuel to power everything.
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We need water, and yeah, there's plenty of water,
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but it's frozen, so we need to heat it up first.
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We need habitats, we need a place to live.
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We need a room and a dining room and maybe even a foyer.
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But we need all this stuff.
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We've begun to solve some of these challenges.
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We've started thinking about how
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to knock some of these items off the list
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so that we can build up a permanent human presence.
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And one very interesting idea relies on
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something called the Sabatier process,
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named after a French chemist.
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Did I say the Newton process?
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Isaac, you're late, you were supposed to be
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on the other side, thank you.
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What we're gonna talk later, okay?
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Anyway, the Sabatier process, let me show you.
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It's a very simple chemical reaction where
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if you take carbon dioxide,
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which Mars has plenty of carbon dioxide, that's for sure,
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and you add some hydrogen, which we can take along with us,
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it's a relatively easy to transport fuel,
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put it under a lot of pressure at some high temperatures,
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you get methane, which is a fuel,
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and as a bonus, some water.
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So one chemical reaction can transform something
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that's already present on Mars
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into a source of fuel and water.
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This doesn't solve all the problems,
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but it does start to chip away at them.
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But to dig into the technology that we are developing today
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to build a human colony on Mars,
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we're gonna need to talk to an expert.
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My name is Eric Berger.
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I am the Senior Space Editor at Ars Technica
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and author of a recent book called, Liftoff
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about the origins of SpaceX.
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So what are the next steps that we need in technology,
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in engineering and understanding to enable a Mars mission?
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Could we do it tomorrow if we wanted to?
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You could do it tomorrow if you didn't mind
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that the astronauts died.
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But if you wanted them to live, we could not do it tomorrow.
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When you think about it, really the first step
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toward going to Mars is the transportation system.
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You need a way to get four, six, eight
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or more people off of the planet Earth
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to survive a six-month journey to Mars
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and then to get them safely down to the surface of Mars.
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And then if you wanna bring 'em back,
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you've gotta figure out how to launch a rocket from Mars,
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rendezvous with maybe a spacecraft in Mars orbit
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and then come back to Earth and then land on Earth.
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We've never sent a really large spacecraft to Mars.
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Obviously, the biggest one is about metric ton,
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and we would need to land something in the order
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of 20 to 30 tons on the surface of Mars.
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to solve the transportation system problem first.
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And we don't have that, NASA doesn't have that.
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No one really has that.
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What about landing on Mars?
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We've developed all sorts of interesting contraptions.
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Like there was the giant bouncing ball.
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There are these sky cranes.
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How do we land a, like you said,
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a multi-ton vehicle on the surface of Mars?
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What kind of technology do we need to develop?
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The key technology is propulsive landing.
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We've never really done that on Earth.
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When the space shuttle came back to Earth, it was a glider.
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When our capsules come back to Earth,
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they're under parachutes.
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We launch under propulsion,
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but we don't really land under propulsion.
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Mars has a much thinner atmosphere, obviously.
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And so to slow down such a large, massive spacecraft
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coming to Mars, you need some kind
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of propulsive landing technology,
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and that's probably some kind of thruster.
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But it's very much sort of theoretical
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and not actually real.
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In your estimation, and this is
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just your personal Eric Berger take,
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how long until the first human steps foot on Mars?
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I'm 48 years old, Paul, and I'd love nothing more than
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to see humans walk on Mars in my lifetime.
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It's just a technological leap
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with the existing rocket technology we have.
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It's a half-trillion dollar mission at least.
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And it requires decades sort of work to build up to it.
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Realistically, I think even SpaceX,
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we just talked about sending humans to Mars in the 2020s.
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I don't see that as viable,
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but within 10 to 15 years, maybe.
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All right, all right.
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Let's fast forward a couple decades into the future.
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You're playing with your grandkids, you're watching the TV,
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you're watching this Mars mission play out.
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What does it look like step by step?
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How many launches does it take
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to get the required equipment into orbit and on Mars?
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Just what does that whole scenario look like?
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We went to the moon with the Saturn V rocket,
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and that rocket was just big and burly enough
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to carry everything we needed to set several tons down
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on the surface of the moon
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and get two astronauts there and back.
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A single rocket ain't gonna do it for Mars.
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So even if you have sort of the most powerful rocket
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that NASA's building, which would be the Block 2 variant
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of the SLS rocket, you'd probably need six to eight
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of those launches to not just establish your ship
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that's gonna go to Mars, but to fuel it.
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That's kind of like why when Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos
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or Relativity or these other companies,
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their plans sort of incorporate reuse from the beginning,
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because you're gonna have lots of launches to do this.
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And if you're spending so much money
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launching an expendable rocket,
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you just can't afford to go anywhere.
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Let's fast forward even a few more decades,
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'cause we do wanna push the edge here,
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and look at Mars colonization.
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It's certainly plausible that the first missions
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to Mars will be you'll go and you'll come back.
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What would it take to set up a semi-permanent status
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where there's rotating crews in and out,
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like the International Space Station,
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like our deep Antarctic research stations,
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what kind of infrastructure would it take to get there?
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I actually had an interesting conversation
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with Elon Musk about this.
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The question was, what would it take
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to build a self-sustaining settlement
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on the surface of Mars?
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It would take one million metric tons of stuff,
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propellant, the 3D printers, the stock for the 3D printers,
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food, agriculture, domes, wherever you're gonna live,
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all of it, to get to the point where you could have
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all that on Mars and those people could then survive
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without intervention from Earth.
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So one million metric tons, if you think about that,
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it takes a very large rocket
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and a whole sort of sophisticated spacecraft.
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The Curiosity mission was what,
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a couple billion dollar mission to get to Mars?
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And that Rover was one ton.
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That's the challenge we're talking about,
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sending one million Perseverances
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or Curiosities worth of mass to Mars.
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It's an enormous challenge.
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And how many people would that support?
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I would think that would be dozens or hundreds.
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I mean, it would be like a growing, thriving colony.
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But there are basic questions, right?
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We don't know if humans can procreate in microgravity.
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We don't know if they can procreate
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in the one-third gravity on Mars.
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How would humans evolve if they were living all
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or most or all their lives on Mars?
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These are great unanswered questions.
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I'd love to answer them one day.
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Is there a future for humanity on Mars?
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I'm of the group of people who think
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that the destiny of humans is to get out there
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and live among the stars.
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It's very clear that there are no planets
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in the soar system or moons remotely close
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to Earth in terms of the suitability for humans.
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It is a Garden of Eden, literally.
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And presumably, there are planet like Earth
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or somewhat like Earth around other stars.
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And we'll get there one day.
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But to do that, we've gotta take the first step.
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And I think if you look around the sources of Mars,
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for all of its flaws, and there are many,
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as you well know, offers the best bet.
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Probably most importantly, it's fairly close.
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Six months is a long time to get there, but that's doable.
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It's not three years to a moon around Jupiter
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or something like that, it's closer.
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It's far from perfect, but you gotta start somewhere,
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and that's probably the best place to start.
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This was a delight of a conversation.
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I really appreciate your time.
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That's all short-term visits.
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For long-term habitation, we have to face a massive problem.
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How do we turn this into this?
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This is a process called terraforming,
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and it involves beefing up the Martian atmosphere.
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But we need a lot of atmosphere.
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We need at least 10 times the current Martian atmosphere
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for water not to boil at body temperature.
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And we need at least 20 times the pressure
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to make it pleasant to walk around
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on the surface without a suit.
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So we need to bulk up that atmosphere, what do we got?
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The best things we have on Mars are the water
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and carbon dioxide locked up in the soil and at the poles.
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But unfortunately, there isn't enough,
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even if we liberated all of it
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and put it all all into the atmosphere.
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It would only raise the air pressure by like one or two
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or maybe three times its current level, which isn't enough.
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So we have to import an atmosphere from somewhere else.
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We have to crash land comets from the outer solar system
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onto the surface of Mars.
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That kind of process is going to take generations,
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and we have to fight an even bigger battle,
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because Mars doesn't have a magnetic field.
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The Earth's magnetic field protects the atmosphere
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from the bombardment of solar radiation,
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so we have to introduce an artificial magnetic field
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around Mars in order to keep that atmosphere locked in.
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For generations, Martian colonists are going to have
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to live underground like some sort of Martian mole people.
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Oh, and you got the note from my manager, right,
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that I'm not wearing the mole costume?
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Right now we're focused on stepping one foot on Mars
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and then 10 and then a hundred,
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slowly building up to have a permanent human presence.
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There's no physics reason preventing us
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from inhabiting Mars, it's a matter of technology
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and engineering and patience, and most importantly, money.
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But there's no reason why we can't eventually be on Mars.
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Humanity will have a presence on Mars.
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Well, I'm not going.