The Pixel 8 / 8 Pro Thread

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Not to dampen the enthusiasm, but the early reviews are not kind to the camera software. The camera apparently has issues with artifacting (that appear to be in how it's tuned, not a bad sensor) They also somehow managed to screw up RAW format such that Lightroom or whatever other editor you use couldn't read the camera's RAW files. They did shoot out an emergency patch to reviewers that appears to have worked to allow reading but camera quality issues persist. That's really disappointing.

Some of the promised features are still pending a future software update or are only partially working. In particular non-US phones are shipping without a lot of the AI-enabled stuff like the phone assistant. That appears to be true even for the UK. CNet has reviewers working simultaneously in the UK and US and they essentially have different phones:

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/googles-pixel-8-pro-has-some-big-problems-our-review-in-progress/
MKBHD has a fairly similar take and I think a lot of reviewers are slow walking their reviews to give Google a chance to at least patch whatever they can in the first week or so.

The other consolation is that in early testing performance seems OK and battery life is about on par with other Android flagships. It might take more time to expose battery drain issues or overheating, but so far that doesn't seem to be the main beef from reviewers.

Given a week or two most of the promised launch features will probably be better and Google is likely to continue to refine things. That said, I owned a Note 7, so it's virtually impossible to have a worse experience than that...
 
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Update: UPS "accidentally" put it in an international bag, and it's now waiting in customs... even though it's a domestic package. UPS said "We don't know when it'll get back, we don't know how it got there, and we don't know when it'll get to you. We recommend you report it as lost and get them to ship you a new one" ... So I've done that.

Waiting for the new google confirmation with the new arrival date... But so far, the combination of Google Store and UPS is not winning anyway awards. UPS made sure to note that "This was our standard / cheapest shipping tier", and the lack of damns was evident in her voice.
 

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the combination of Google Store and UPS is not winning

Sorry to hear that.

I'm always leery about buying stuff from Google directly. You can't go to a store and corner someone until they fix the screw up when things go pear shaped.

Hopefully they do something to make it up if they can't get a new one sent out ASAP.
 

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I'm always leery about buying stuff from Google directly.
I will say, I was able to talk to a real human, and the real human solved my issue, even though I had to wait on and off of hold for 40 minutes.

But yes, I miss the days when stores had inventory, that I could walk into, and buy.
 

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Have you guys tried using the "register multiple fingers" feature and just register the same finger multiple times? Improves the chances of a hit by quite a lot.

Yeah. My P7 still gets finicky if the condition of my finger is slightly off from what it was when the prints were entered (too dry/ not dry enough, slightly dirty, etc.). Still far better than my P6 was, however.
 

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Well, what do we have here!
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(Both the original and the replacement showed up a few hours apart, which was handy, because Google didn't actually ship a replacement case, just the phone and earbuds. Now I have to deal with returning one package, but at least it's here!)
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Inside, we've got all of our toys. I took advantage of the deal to get the free Pixel Buds Pro (in Bay), with my Pixel 8 Rose (256GB). I really with they either had the Bay for the Pixel 8, or Rose for the Buds Pro so everything could match, but alas, that is not the world in which we live. Now, to dive into the fun!

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Both boxes are pretty minimalist. Not a lot of space wasted on packaging, which I appreciate, and all cardboard or paper based.

We'll start with the Pixel Buds Pro, as they are smaller, simpler, and I don't have a lot to say initially. Packaging wise, pretty simple. A little paper sleeve holding it closed, and then underneath you get a little paper tube containing the other earbud sizes. Out of box seems to fit me, I can check the size later but my guess is the medium.
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Note the lack of any charging cable, I guess Google assumes if you're ordering these you already have a USB-C cable kicking around.
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Inside, the colour is very sharp. Definitely reinforces my slight sadness that they didn't bring the Bay blue to the smaller phone. If the Pro is your jam, I'd definitely go with this colourway!
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So far I've paired these. ANC seems to work, I certainly didn't hear my wife talking to me, and music sounds like music. For reference, I also have a pair of Skullcandy Rail ANC wireless earbuds as my baseline comparison, so when I report back that's what I'm comparing against. (For every day I alternate between a pair of MDR-7506's and Bose QC25's, which obviously are apples and oranges from these earbuds. But hey, I'll let you know my thoughts on how those compare too!)

Now, on to the main attraction! This is my first time doing an un-boxing / write-up. If you have any specific things you want me to test (Non-destructive testing only please!), apps to install, weird scenarios to put the phone through, I'm game... Just reply and I'll get back as we walk through this adventure together!

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As mentioned, (and as critiqued by such sterling characters as all of my friends, my wife, and most likely my family), I went with the rose. Not the most manly, but the combination of the coppery metal with the lighter finish is super sharp. Also, I've promised myself never to buy a boring black phone again, so YMMV but for me this will definitely stand out from the crowd.

As you can see, it opens to the back first. The screen is covered with some sort of plasticky / papery screen protector.
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Doesn't seem to be any other screen protector, unless I've missed it, but it's a neat minimalist way to show what all the buttons and holes in the phone are for. From an industrial design perspective, a solid 8/10!

In the box, you get a charging cable, USB-A to USB-C adapter, SIM Adapter (It's hidden in the manual, at first I thought it wasn't included) and some paperwork... none of which I bothered opening (What can I say... you, my reader, paid for honesty, not completeness)

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On to the phone itself, the build quality seems perfectly fine. Glass back, smooth and sleek but pretty one dimensional. (For reference, so you know what my baselines are, my previous phones in order were a Glacial Green OnePlus 8 Pro , a Black Galaxy Note8, a Blue Honor 8, a Blue HTC Windows Phone 8X... and past that you probably don't care! (If you do care put in a request, I'll see how far back I can remember!) Nothing compares to the finish of the glass on the Honor 8, but the Pixel has a nice weight in the hand, and probably won't slip out. The metal around the camera around the outside is extremely premium, and feels great, and is probably one of the best looking accents on the phone. Also, note the complete and total lack of any curve on the screen! Pure heaven. Oh and bezels. This is a phone review, so I guess I should mention. The phone indeed has bezels. I think? Maybe? I don't really care.

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This concludes Part 1, because you can only attach 10 photos at a time. Stay tuned for side profile, and Pixel's First Photo's!
 

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Alright, on-wards and upwards!

Let's start with more shiny picture of the phone. Note these were all taken with the old phone (Glacial Green OnePlus 8 Pro, as previously mentioned), which for various reasons, is not the finest smartphone camera in the world. But it did okay.

Side Profile:
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Now, dear friends, we've talked about how it feels in the hand, and the build quality, but let's be honest. None of that matters, because under pain of death my wife has sworn me to keep this phone in a case at all times.... no if's, and's, and especially no but's.

I decided, thanks to @Matthias's pictures of his phone, to go with the Bellroy leather case, specifically in Biscotti. In fact, if I'm being completely honest, it was the preview shots of the case on the website that sold me on the Rose phone, because the coppery metal just goes so well with the light leather. (If you, too, want to be suckered in to the miracle that is modern marketing, here's the stock photo)

Now, for my reproductions:
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Note to readers: You may notice the background changing in the photo's, because... well, I'm not a photographer, but the phone was also delivered during my work day, so I kept getting interrupted trying to write this review by my boss telling me to "Do my job". The sacrifices we make, they are indeed real.

Here's another angle, with less white man:
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Lastly, I'm not sure how well it comes across, but if you look closely at the front, there's a thin edge of the coppery metal around the screen. It's the perfect accent to the leather of the case, and wholeheartedly reinforces my decision.

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Now, you've somehow read this far, and at this point you may be thinking He's definitely given us a bunch of half-arsed photos, but when's he actually going to review the phone?", and to that, I say, if you want a formal review, look no further than Ars. (I'll admit, reader, this was not my favourite Ars review. I found the author randomly interchanged Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro, and I'm not too proud to confess I got a bit confused reading it after half a whiskey. But it has all the normal review-y things, and what can I say, it's a good site). This review is definitely going to be focused on only what I care about. Which means we'll be skipping benchmarks, battery life metrics, and other miscellanea. Partially because I don't care, but mostly because I don't know how. But instead, we'll talk a little about my experience setting it up.

First things first. I haven't transferred phones in a while, and usually I just skip all the transfer crap, login to Google, and then begin to swear as I try to remember all the apps I liked on my old phone. This time, I figured I'd try out the transfer tool. It was fairly slick. You start by logging in to Google, connecting to Wi-Fi, and then on your old phone you merely scan a QR code and you're off to the races.

After signing your life away numerous times, in various ways that I both did and did not agree too (You can decline a surprising number of Google's -isms), the phone begins the transfer process. It took about 10 minutes to transfer, although I'll admit I chose not to transfer the ~100GB or so of photos and videos. All are sync'd to OneDrive, and I can pull them back down if necessary. [EDIT: One thing I forgot to mention was heat. I did the transfer in the case, and it was mildly warm but not anywhere close to hot. This was a SIGNIFICANT departure from the OnePlus 8 Pro, which worked quite nicely as a replacement for a hot water bottle when you really got it chugging]

When complete, you're popped into the homescreen. The new theming is quite nice, and adds a lot of nice complementary colour options. The stock wallpapers are delightful, and overall I'm please with the size of the phone. It fits the hand nicely, and the lack of curved screen makes it easy to use and my frustration level trying to type some passwords with the letter q, elevated bibliophiles, was non-existent.

One thing I miss from the OnePlus, mostly from a muscle memory perspective, is the slider switch for Silent-Vibrate-Noise, but it's pretty easy in Android 14 so I'm sure that will come quickly. On the topic of vibration, whatever they installed in here rivals a washing machine... I keep thinking I've gone to a 4D theatre every time it goes off in my pants.

Now, the next thing I played around with was the Camera, and this, Arsians, is the part of the show I'm sure you'll enjoy the most. Because, what better way to celebrate a new phone, than to take photos of the old phone! This is also where you'll learn why my wife was so strict on me not taking the phone out of the box until the case arrive. Without further adieu, I present my Glacial Green OnePlus 8 Pro!

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First off, the corner of death. As you can see, without the telephoto lens the photo is a bit grainy, but you can still see how the lack of glass goes all the way through to the inner sub frame. Moving up a lens:
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We can see the grainy-ness improves, but the Pixel has trouble focusing on all the little shatter marks that make up what's left of the corner glass. Should we try the further lens, friends?
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As you can see, at this point we can't really get into the details of the phone, and the focus is munch more on the phone as an object, and less on the details. Why, we can't see the cracks on the face of the phone at all! Let's remedy that now, with some full frontal nudity.
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Much better! In the middle of the screen, you can see a delicate curve that would make a mathematician smile, from the crack running from one corner, over the fingerprint reader, to the other corner. (At this point reader, you might be wondering just how long the phone's been like that. If you guessed a year, you're probably close to being right)

Now, how does the Pixel camera handle colour? Let's check that beautiful Glacial Green finish. While not as gorgeous as the shimmery blue of the Honor 8, it is still a beautiful colour.
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Now, here's something interesting. Both of these photos were taken at the same time, from the same angle. The first is with the Macro Focus feature automagically enabling itself. Now here's the second, without that feature turned on:

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Notice the difference in colours, background colours, and even the angle (The bottom corner looks significantly more stretched).
The adjusted photo also solves the shadows, and has much better definition of the delicate spiderweb of cracks across the back, although neither really is able to demonstrate the depth of destruction from this particular angle.

With that, my Arsian friends, I leave you my first day unboxing and initial review of the new Google Pixel 8. I'll keep adding my thoughts, and as I mentioned if there are specific things you want me to test, or if you want me to try to remember all of my old phones, or even photo comparisons between all the phones that I've still got, please let me know! This is a choose your adventure ride, and I'm happy to provide you with the content YOU want to know about. I'm Canadian, ya know, and we're socialists like that.
 
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It's odd that the pictures turned out less than stellar. Make sure to look for updates for the phone, they may still be working on stuff. Also the ars hosting might degrade the image quality a bit too.
Yeah, could also have been the conditions. It's a weird subject to photograph.

As I get updates I'll continue to post photos and I'll redo those as well over the next couple months.

In the meantime, there has been a request for a comparison / review of the speakerphone! So I've got an idea for that and I'll be hopefully getting that done this week. Any other topics you want me to review, just post!
 
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Am very curious how you find battery life, let us know after you use it for a bit!
Yep, I'll definitely add that. Day 1 (the full day) went well, ended with about 20%. Since Pixel Android doesn't store battery burn-down past charging, I'll be trying to capture a weeks worth or so of screenshots to give you all a view of what the burndown looks like and what that time curve is.
 
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I've had my 8 since last Friday, battery seems better than the 7 it replaced, but I also pop in on and off charge during the day [wireless stands or Android Auto in the car] so haven't tracked any numbers or anything.

I like that it's smaller than the 7. Feels slightly smoother in use. Haven't done much else with it yet.
 

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https://www.phonearena.com/news/Pix...sor-G3-not-capable-enough-apparently_id151806
Phone Arena points out how much AI processing isn't happening in the Tensor G3 on-device but rather in a datacenter.

I don't honestly think this is something that needs to be spun entirely negatively though. It's possible that more processing will be done locally as the software improves but more to the point, all of those pixel-exclusive features could easily come to other Android phones or even just other Google customers. I think that's likely, although after some delay. It's certainly doing more local processing than most phones, just not for every use case.

The downside is the general Pixel 8 downside. They're devoting space in silicon to their AI hardware. The G3 is just not as fast as the flagship competition-- from either a small amount to a significant lag depending on the app/scenario/benchmark (and the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is almost out.) I honestly think they should have prioritized raw compute more even though that's not their marketing. We know the G4 will be a mild respin of the G3 and the first real improvement is 2025 with the G5 so it's almost as fast today but will start to look pretty slow next year as the G2 did against the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1+ and Gen 2, but also looking forward to a phone years into the future if someone is going to take advantage of those 7 years of updates. You'd want the absolute fastest phone today even if you don't need it so it's not slow many years down the road.
 

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Fortunately for Google, I could care less about having the fastest processor or that they use the cloud for AI stuff I'll rarely use. I'm pretty sure that's only a "negative" for tech writers [maybe people trying to travel intentionally without a service plan?]. I can't imagine my Pixel 8 will be used for more than 5 years, and if it is, it will be as a camera for my son to mess around with or maybe a small video consumption device or media remote in the house.

Does any non-techie really care anymore? I don't game on my phone, so phones have been fast enough for me since before my OG Pixel - and I bet that could handle 90%+ of current mobile games. I buy phones for improved Cameras and software support.

Or in this case, my wife broke her phone and Fi offered me a Pixel 8 for $400. So I gave her my Pixel 7 to replace her now broken Pixel 4. I've gone from OG Pixel to Pixel 3 to Pixel 7 to Pixel 8. Everytime I've looked at an iPhone too, but eventually decided it wasn't worth the extra money to have to deal with iOS. I will never buy a Samsung phone, regardless of the "power" of its processor [I HATE their bastardized skin - you'd have to pay me a decent amount of money to use it]. It's simply a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Does any non-techie really care anymore? I don't game on my phone, so phones have been fast enough for me since before my OG Pixel - and I bet that could handle 90%+ of current mobile games. I buy phones for improved Cameras and software support.

Or in this case, my wife broke her phone and Fi offered me a Pixel 8 for $400. So I gave her my Pixel 7 to replace her now broken Pixel 4. I've gone from OG Pixel to Pixel 3 to Pixel 7 to Pixel 8. Everytime I've looked at an iPhone too, but eventually decided it wasn't worth the extra money to have to deal with iOS. I will never buy a Samsung phone, regardless of the "power" of its processor [I HATE their bastardized skin - you'd have to pay me a decent amount of money to use it]. It's simply a non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
So for the time every phone you have gotten at the time of being current with updates. All your phones have been properly ram/processor powered. Being it has enough for everything to function smoothly. I just went from a 5a to an current underpowered Samsung because i needed a stop gap emergency phone switch. And it was painful. It took 6 hours to go through a full install process.
 

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I'd say there's a good chance. The 7/7 Pro were last year. I got the 7 for -$100 last year. Pretty sure similar happened with the 6/6 Pro the year before.
spiral, which vendor?

Also, do the players have the same deal price on BF--that is, is it set by Google? Or would the price differ amongst Amazon/Google/Best Buy, etc.?
 

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spiral, which vendor?

Also, do the players have the same deal price on BF--that is, is it set by Google? Or would the price differ amongst Amazon/Google/Best Buy, etc.?

I bought direct from Google, but I'm pretty sure the other stores had the same discount running. IIRC Google happened to offer a better trade-in on my 6, so that's why I went through them.
 

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Feels slightly smoother in use. Haven't done much else with it yet.
Was your Pixel 7 running Android 13 or had you updated it to 14? My Pixel 7 seems to run a bit better under 14 than 13. I'll be keeping it at least 5 years as I don't care about having the latest and greatest when it comes to phones. My old LG G6 still works great, but with it still running Android 8, some apps important to me would no longer work. I never had any interest in Apple anything and don't care for Samsung's stupid UI.
 
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Was your Pixel 7 running Android 13 or had you updated it to 14? My Pixel 7 seems to run a bit better under 14 than 13. I'll be keeping it at least 5 years as I don't care about having the latest and greatest when it comes to phones. My old LG G6 still works great, but with it still running Android 8, some apps important to me would no longer work. I never had any interest in Apple anything and don't care for Samsung's stupid UI.
13, so I'll have to see if 14 is smoother.

My plan had also been to keep mine for years, I didn't jump to an 8 because I wanted to - just made the most sense in the situation thanks to a big Fi discount. I'll have to thank my wife for properly timing her need for a new phone..
 
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Okay, I'm long overdue for a follow-up!

General thoughts are I'm super happy with the device. Size is great, it looks sharp as hell (Especially in the Bellroy case). Thermals seem fine, it gets warm but definitely no worse than my (Admittedly Snapdragon 888) OnePlus 8 Pro.

I still miss my headphone jack, and I had an annoyance on my recent work trip. My older Belkin USB-C to 3.5mm & USB-C charging dongle refused to work on this phone. Not sure if it's a DAC issue or what, a cheap replacement worked fine.

Back to the questions. I have some battery life data to parse, but the general gist is it makes a day no problem, regardless of what I've been doing. Definitely starts to take a hit if say I've got Maps and music going for long periods, but I've never run out so far.

@jhodge asked about speakerphone. I've used it lots, with no complaints from anyone. It sounds crystal clear on my end and my wife and others have had no complaints about my voice. I'd like to do some more testing with recordings, but that'll have to wait for parental leave.

Quick note and sample of night sight. That feature WORKS. This photo was taken at the exact same location, one after the other. First with no flash, second with no flash but night sight. Let me know if you notice a difference:
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Also, the now playing feature (identifying the songs playing in your life) is a bit creepy because it's always listening, but so damn useful I'm fine with it.

Any more questions, now that I'm a month in?
 

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Okay, I'm long overdue for a follow-up!

General thoughts are I'm super happy with the device. Size is great, it looks sharp as hell (Especially in the Bellroy case). Thermals seem fine, it gets warm but definitely no worse than my (Admittedly Snapdragon 888) OnePlus 8 Pro.

I still miss my headphone jack, and I had an annoyance on my recent work trip. My older Belkin USB-C to 3.5mm & USB-C charging dongle refused to work on this phone. Not sure if it's a DAC issue or what, a cheap replacement worked fine.

Back to the questions. I have some battery life data to parse, but the general gist is it makes a day no problem, regardless of what I've been doing. Definitely starts to take a hit if say I've got Maps and music going for long periods, but I've never run out so far.

@jhodge asked about speakerphone. I've used it lots, with no complaints from anyone. It sounds crystal clear on my end and my wife and others have had no complaints about my voice. I'd like to do some more testing with recordings, but that'll have to wait for parental leave.

Quick note and sample of night sight. That feature WORKS. This photo was taken at the exact same location, one after the other. First with no flash, second with no flash but night sight. Let me know if you notice a difference:
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Also, the now playing feature (identifying the songs playing in your life) is a bit creepy because it's always listening, but so damn useful I'm fine with it.

Any more questions, now that I'm a month in?
You_are_not_helping with those pics. :p
 

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You_are_not_helping with those pics. :p
The 7 & 7 Pro also have Night Sight

As with the OP, I haven't hit battery saver yet, which I used to hit on heavy days with my 7. Definitely appreciate the slightly smaller size too. I still prefer the size of the 3, but I think those days are gone.