Supreme Court rules TikTok can be banned

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An entire generation is going to become politically active because of this.
I fear you are correct. And that worries me because they have shown they are willing and, even worse, enthusiastic about migrating to any platform that gives them the attention they want without any regard whatsoever for privacy or security.

I get humans are social creatures and I am not saying we should ignore our innate desire to engage with others.

But we have been conditioned to accept that our information is the product and way too many people are just fine with that reality.
 
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I despise Trump and wish him nothing but ill, but one has to say, this weird US lame duck presidency stuff is bullshit.
Not sure what you mean. This was passed by both sides of the isles and signed by the President. Lame duck has nothing to do with this.
 
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Why hasn't someone made a chinese knock-off yet?
For the same reason it's been difficult to replace Twitter, the sauce isn't in the tech, it's in the content.

As much as TikTok is mindless short attention span theater, people come for the creators. Even if they just keep scrolling.
 
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Why hasn't someone made a chinese knock-off yet?
Have you seen Instagram/FB Reels? That has the same knock-off quality we've come to expect of a Chinese knock-off.

YT Shorts is better than Reels, but not close to TikTok. Also, Xiaohongshu (Red Note) is out there, but to me it seems like a spite-migration, and for damn good reason - our data was all held within the US, and now we're migrating to a wholly-housed-in-China app.
 
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Great! Now do facebook and the rest…

That’s what I’d like to say. What a mess social media is. But i suspect we may have to pay attention to how much people “remember” this one - seems entirely possible that despite this bring a bipartisan decision on day 1 it’ll go down in history as one pushed by Biden and the Dems.

Which should be a good thing, but it won’t be, because we took our mind numbing entertainment away from people. It’s like taking grain away from Paris in 1792.

Apologies for a naive question, but what's wrong with switching to YouTube? Or is the issue that getting rid of TikTok, basically forces a monopoly for YouTube?

I kind of imagine most people will switch to Reels or shorts and life will go on. But i don’t use any of the three so I’m not actually sure how much “worse” the experience on those two is.
 
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I fear you are correct. And that worries me because they have shown they are willing and, even worse, enthusiastic about migrating to any platform that gives them the attention they want without any regard whatsoever for privacy or security.

I get humans are social creatures and I am not saying we should ignore our innate desire to engage with others.

But we have been conditioned to accept that our information is the product and way too many people are just fine with that reality.
The kids have, literally, only ever known surveillance capitalism and its material rewards.

What the fuck were people expecting, exactly?
 
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I read that many kids are moving to RedNote, which apparently is similar, and there's also a fresh competitor from the BlueSky folks as well.
The BlueSky competitor, BlueScreen, isn't out yet though. And I can only find one article on it where it's "announced", but that seems like it's going to be a long wait before it actually is publicly available.
 
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For the same reason it's been difficult to replace Twitter, the sauce isn't in the tech, it's in the content.

As much as TikTok is mindless short attention span theater, people come for the creators. Even if they just keep scrolling.
The secret sauce is a mix of the content and the algorithm. TikTok has seemingly mastered serving content to you that you would be interested in, which Meta and YT's competitors (Reels and Shorts) haven't gotten close to. While the content needs to be there (it is for both of those competitors, for the most part), the actual algorithm needs to be significantly improved for both to be close to what TikTok manages to do.
 
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If anything, the election is the best evidence of youth activism. They engaged in mass protest on campuses and refused to help reelect an administration that was participating in a genocide. Trump may not have deserved to win, but Harris richly deserved to lose.
Contrary to the popular desire to throw kids under the bus, 54% (that's a majority) of 18-29 year-olds went for Harris.
 
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If anything, the election is the best evidence of youth activism. They engaged in mass protest on campuses and refused to help reelect an administration that was participating in a genocide. Trump may not have deserved to win, but Harris richly deserved to lose.
Anybody who thinks the Republicans are going to protect muslims in palestine is so brain-damaged that I'm amazed they can still breathe and blink their eyes.
 
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I certainly don't want Trump to be president, but he's going to be, so they should have backed the removals van up to the White House on 6 November and been done with it.
This would mean to shitcan everything the previous administration did preemptively even if it's something that the incoming administration doesn't even want gone/changed. If Trump is opposed to the decision made by his predecessor he now has 4 years of time to change it.

Stopping everything that is currently being worked on/is an ongoing concern just because there was an election seems silly to me by that argument nothing would ever get done given that the US has elections every 2 years or even more often for at least some part of the House/Senate.
 
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